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This guy really needs to check his computer, or overclock less...
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Send message Joined: 14 Jul 05 Posts: 5 Credit: 15,612 RAC: 0 |
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/show_host_detail.php?hostid=38738 What a waste of time and energy for this crap, these people ever notice? I usually (in winter) overclock my computers insanely (reletively) and always make sure they perform properly. |
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Send message Joined: 14 Jul 05 Posts: 5 Credit: 15,612 RAC: 0 |
so does this guy.... http://lhcathome.cern.ch/results.php?hostid=7053 Is there a way to make the system quit sending work units to computers that repeatedly send back errors this rapidly? And leave a message in the messages tab or something indicating to the user of the defective host that the host will not recieve work units until the project is reset on the host? Hopefully indicating he realizes his computer's flaws and fixes them, otherwise more zeros will be sent back, and he will get the message again ect. Set it at a leanient 10 consecutive client errors or something..... Is this a possible solution to this issue? |
 Ocean Archer Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 143 Credit: 263,300 RAC: 0 |
Wonder if he got some -106 error messages and tried to force the project to accept the completed data ... that'll cause validation errors, but shouldn't get credit for it. Hmmm, puzzling it is .. If I've lived this long, I've gotta be that old |
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Tigher Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 40 Credit: 9,434 RAC: 0 |
I notice he is using 4.70 which is alpha I believe. Seti users are having the same problem.....not necessarily O/C me thinks. He needs to move to 4.71....so he can a different but equally challenging problem set.  |
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Ocean Archer Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 143 Credit: 263,300 RAC: 0 |
> http://lhcathome.cern.ch/show_host_detail.php?hostid=38738 > > What a waste of time and energy for this crap, these people ever notice? I > usually (in winter) overclock my computers insanely (reletively) and always > make sure they perform properly. > Here's the information on the computer in question : GenuineIntel x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 3 733MHz Looks like a Intel P3 machine with 128meg of memory -- hardly a unit one would try to overclock. It might be a machine that was started and left on a shelf unattended, and the owner has no knowledge of the problem ... If I've lived this long, I've gotta be that old |
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Send message Joined: 14 Jul 05 Posts: 5 Credit: 15,612 RAC: 0 |
Exactly why I think work units should be stopped to such hosts, until the user checks it, and notices the problem. |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 51 Credit: 10,626 RAC: 0 |
This computer doesn't look good either: [url=http://lhcathome.cern.ch/show_host_detail.php?hostid=39958]http://lhcathome.cern.ch/show_host_detail.php?hostid=39958<a> "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world" - Me 
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 Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 165 Credit: 146,925 RAC: 0 |
> Exactly why I think work units should be stopped to such hosts, until the user > checks it, and notices the problem. > The machines in question will be reduced to 1 WU / day by the quota reduction system. Each UL/DL/Client error or late result will reduce the daily quota by one. The quota increases when the machine starts sending valid results.   BOINC WIKI |
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Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 71 Credit: 8,657 RAC: 0 |
> I notice he is using 4.70 which is alpha I believe. Seti users are having the > same problem.....not necessarily O/C me thinks. I'm having no problems with 4.70. |
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Alex Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 378 Credit: 10,765 RAC: 0 |
I doubt that he's overclocking. Sounds like an issue of memory usage, or the 'keep results in memory' setting of boinc. Or the Operating system's paging file. Or disk space for paging file... I wish I spoke Spanish.. if only for the accent. -185 (0xffffff47) "failed - El archivo de paginaci�n es demasiado peque�o para completar la operaci�n. " Babelfish translation of error in his log "failed - the file of paginaci?n is too much peque?o to complete operaci?n." .. the page file is too much peque?o to complete operation ... I'm not the LHC Alex. Just a number cruncher like everyone else here. |
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Send message Joined: 14 Jul 05 Posts: 5 Credit: 15,612 RAC: 0 |
Quote: "The machines in question will be reduced to 1 WU / day by the quota reduction system. Each UL/DL/Client error or late result will reduce the daily quota by one. The quota increases when the machine starts sending valid results." That's good to know! |
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Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 71 Credit: 8,657 RAC: 0 |
> Babelfish translation of error in his log > "failed - the file of paginaci?n is too much peque?o to complete operaci?n." > > .. the page file is too much peque?o to complete operation ... It's having trouble with special characters. Peque?o is probably pequeño, which means small. |
Ageless Send message Joined: 18 Sep 04 Posts: 143 Credit: 27,645 RAC: 0 |
> > Exactly why I think work units should be stopped to such hosts, until the > user > > checks it, and notices the problem. > > > The machines in question will be reduced to 1 WU / day by the quota reduction > system. Each UL/DL/Client error or late result will reduce the daily quota by > one. The quota increases when the machine starts sending valid results. > Does LHC have a download quota? I can't find it anywhere. Jord BOINC FAQ Service |
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Send message Joined: 1 Sep 04 Posts: 506 Credit: 118,619 RAC: 0 |
> Does LHC have a download quota? I can't find it anywhere. > Yes - it's set to 100 units per day, I think. It may have changed - at one point it was up and down like a fiddler's elbow! Giskard Gaspode the UnDressed http://www.littlevale.co.uk |
 Send message Joined: 27 Sep 04 Posts: 37 Credit: 4,496 RAC: 0 |
The same here: http://lhcathome.cern.ch/results.php?hostid=35686 |
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David C Thompson Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 10 Credit: 992 RAC: 0 |
> http://lhcathome.cern.ch/show_host_detail.php?hostid=38738 > > What a waste of time and energy for this crap, these people ever notice? I > usually (in winter) overclock my computers insanely (reletively) and always > make sure they perform properly. > Hopefully as LHC and BOINC grow there will be updates to how work is distributed. They faced a similar situation with SETI@Home wherein some WUs could not be downloaded at all, and other WUs could not be downloaded by certain client versions (namely old ones). They corrected it by adding a WU rate limiter and cancelling some WUs that repeatedly failed. That exact fix won't work here, but hopefully it gives some ideas. --- <a href="http://www.davidcthompson.com">David C Thompson</a>, intellectual property law. <a href="http://slaps.stanford.edu">Stanford Law and Policy Society</a> |
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Send message Joined: 24 Oct 04 Posts: 79 Credit: 257,762 RAC: 0 |
> > > Does LHC have a download quota? I can't find it anywhere. > > > > Yes - it's set to 100 units per day, I think. It may have changed - at one > point it was up and down like a fiddler's elbow! > > Giskard > Yes it is at 100 units a day and comes into serious play top 100 hosts with 100k workunits unlike the million turn we are doing now. Less than an hour apiece (info for the newcomers) |
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 545 Credit: 148,912 RAC: 0 |
For me the 10K run about 10 minutes tops. The 100K as stated less than an hour. The 1M take around 10 hours. |
 Send message Joined: 16 Jul 05 Posts: 24 Credit: 6,549 RAC: 0 |
This guy also: http://lhcathome.cern.ch/show_host_detail.php?hostid=34918 <img border="0" src="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/one/stats.php?userID=2328&trans=off" /> <img border="0" src="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/one/stats.php?userID=2328&prj=5&trans=off" /> |
 Send message Joined: 28 Sep 04 Posts: 27 Credit: 17,091 RAC: 0 |
> This > guy also: http://lhcathome.cern.ch/show_host_detail.php?hostid=34918 With this one, the problem is, BURP somehow took over LHC. (or was it the other way around?) Happy crunching, 
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