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Send message Joined: 23 Oct 04 Posts: 358 Credit: 1,439,205 RAC: 0 |
!!!Alert!!! Server Status Up, 9978 workunits to crunch 48 concurrent connections We are going down with new work... Is the test over or will there be new work soon? -only some Q.'s- greetz littleBouncer [EDIT] WOW, it begins to grow at new... Great...;-) [/EDIT] [EDIT 2nd] yes (no more growth); that was only a little 'hickup'...;-( [/EDIT 2nd] |
Send message Joined: 27 Sep 04 Posts: 282 Credit: 1,415,417 RAC: 0 |
current status: Up, 8614 workunits to crunch 42 concurrent connections i see no growth at the moment |
Send message Joined: 27 Sep 04 Posts: 282 Credit: 1,415,417 RAC: 0 |
> current status: > Up, 8614 workunits to crunch > 42 concurrent connections > > i see no growth at the moment > Update.... Up, 10742 workunits to crunch 49 concurrent connections |
Send message Joined: 30 Sep 04 Posts: 112 Credit: 104,059 RAC: 0 |
A question if I may: Since we're all supposedly 'used to' the Scientists @ CERN taking LONG BREAKS between times they give the LHC Admins more work for us, should another outage be considered atypical at this time? Sure we've had close to 200k work units over the last 7-10 days but has that spoiled all of us in to thinking that the good times will last forever?? Get those Account ID's for other BOINC projects ready, because unless CERN drops another 100k of work on us real soon, they will be needed. In this one instance I really hope I am wrong.... |
Send message Joined: 27 Sep 04 Posts: 282 Credit: 1,415,417 RAC: 0 |
> Get those Account ID's for other BOINC projects ready, because unless CERN > drops another 100k of work on us real soon, they will be needed. > > In this one instance I really hope I am wrong.... > as of today, there's work available..... work queues should be loaded with enough work. I think it's ok if there's another outage. The CERN guys have to wait for the results of the latest WU flood to come back and analyze that. Then they will have more work. That's what we've been told before. And I'm fine with that. I have some work left! ;-) Besides... The amount of available WU's is growing!!!!! |
Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 309 Credit: 715,258 RAC: 0 |
Up to 18248...last time I looked (about 45 min ago it was 14,000+) Woohoo. Is LHC is good! Paul (S@H1 8888) BOINC/SAH BETA |
Send message Joined: 3 Sep 04 Posts: 212 Credit: 4,545 RAC: 0 |
We are currently finishing "tail" of current study, that is, resubmitting work until every workunit has been processed. After that there will be a short break (week or so) and then about one million new workunits (which makes about five million results) will be submitted. Markku Degerholm LHC@home admin |
Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 36 Credit: 90,806 RAC: 0 |
> ...one million new workunits (which makes about five million results) will be submitted. Wow!!! That sounds great, they should be able to last for some weeks. :-) How long will the work units be, 100.000 or 1 million turns? |
Send message Joined: 3 Sep 04 Posts: 212 Credit: 4,545 RAC: 0 |
> How long will the work units be, 100.000 or 1 million turns? AFAIK, 100 000. Markku Degerholm LHC@home admin |
Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 1 Credit: 1,616 RAC: 0 |
Did somebody say "one milllllion" units? |
Send message Joined: 17 Sep 04 Posts: 190 Credit: 649,637 RAC: 0 |
> Did somebody say "one milllllion" units? :) > assumption One fast today's PC is doing about 50 WUs per day. not counting the (re-) rescheduled work 1'000'000 : 50 = 20'000 Pentiums/AMDs = 1 day of fuel. With 5'000 active (fast) hosts, the fuel reaches about 4 days? The number million sounds great, at least for some more days.. Might with deeper daily quotas it can be prolonged |
Send message Joined: 23 Oct 04 Posts: 358 Credit: 1,439,205 RAC: 0 |
> We are currently finishing "tail" of current study, that is, resubmitting work > until every workunit has been processed. > > After that there will be a short break (week or so) ---- I'm prepared for that time...... > and then about one million > new workunits (which makes about five million results) will be submitted. > > @ Markku Thanks for this great announcement. My instances are ready to crunch a part of them ... ;-) Grüessli littleBouncer |
Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 352 Credit: 1,393,150 RAC: 0 |
My instances are ready to crunch a part of them ... ;-) ========== I'll get any you miss LB ... :P |
Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 545 Credit: 148,912 RAC: 0 |
Now, if we could only get 2 studies going ... :) Ah, well. I just think this is far more interesting of a study than looking for ET. So much so that my SETI@Home standing number has been dropping steadily ... |
Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 36 Credit: 90,806 RAC: 0 |
> 1'000'000 : 50 = 20'000 Pentiums/AMDs = 1 day of fuel. > > With 5'000 active (fast) hosts, the fuel reaches about 4 days? > > The number million sounds great, at least for some more days.. But remember, not all people have their machines running for 24 hours a day. How long did the recent batch of units last? About 2 weeks, I think, so I believe a million units could well last for a month. |
Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 309 Credit: 715,258 RAC: 0 |
Will new account creation be enabled? Live long and crunch! Paul (S@H1 8888) BOINC/SAH BETA |
Send message Joined: 30 Sep 04 Posts: 112 Credit: 104,059 RAC: 0 |
> Will new account creation be enabled? > > Live long and crunch! Gas Giant: Do you think that the project is really ready for this at this moment in time....? If the Beta is almost over, can you imagine what this place will be like with just 5k new members, or 10k or 20k new members??? We barely have enough steady work for the 5104 of us as it is, and the million WU being talked about have been worked out to last about a month or so for just us. That amount could easily be depleted/sent out in 2 weeks or less if they just added 5,000 more members with fairly fast PC's. Make it 10k new users instead of 5k and a million WU's would only last barely a week (using the example in a prior post as the basis). Unless CERN has changed their policy for the frequency of new work, I don't see us adding new members soon unless they've got a stash of a Few Million laying about someplace waiting to be crunched. The only caveat that would make a million WU last longer would be if they were all 1,000,000 turn instead of 100k turn, but I see above that Markku has said that this batch is all 100k as far as he knows. |
Send message Joined: 17 Sep 04 Posts: 23 Credit: 6,871,909 RAC: 1 |
>Do you think that the project is really ready for this at this moment in >time....? If the Beta is almost over, can you imagine what this place will be >like with just 5k new members, or 10k or 20k new members??? > >We barely have enough steady work for the 5104 of us as it is, and the >million WU being talked about have been worked out to last about a month or >so for just us. > >That amount could easily be depleted/sent out in 2 weeks or less if they just >added 5,000 more members with fairly fast PC's. Make it 10k new users instead >of 5k and a million WU's would only last barely a week (using the example in >a prior post as the basis). > >Unless CERN has changed their policy for the frequency of new work, I don't >see us adding new members soon unless they've got a stash of a Few Million >laying about someplace waiting to be crunched. Well, IMO (and that is really just my opinion), more allowed user should not be dependent on how long existing users would be kept happy crunching. Does it really matter if we have a 4 week break and then 4 weeks of work or if we have a 7 week break and then one week of work? We were told that this project has not constant flow of fresh wu's. I mean, as long as the sience is done... There are enough projects out there to crunch in the breaks and it get more as time passes on. Just my opinion |
Send message Joined: 30 Sep 04 Posts: 112 Credit: 104,059 RAC: 0 |
FZB: You misunderstood my statement. I was saying that if we barely have enough work to keep the <B><I>current</B></I> users machines crunching and we're exceeding the science goals with only 5104 active users, then what will the influx of 5k 10k or 20k new people do to the existing flow of work from CERN? Unless CERN has enough consistent work for everybody they allow to crunch, then the science suffers, the users suffer and the project suffers. So yes, the amount of new users would depend on CERN's ability to get good use out of their ability to crunch, why else allow them in if there's not enough work to go around for them to contribute to the science? |
Send message Joined: 18 Sep 04 Posts: 35 Credit: 250,303 RAC: 0 |
> exceeding the science goals with only 5104 active users, Looking at the exported user stats, in the last 30 days only 2600 users returned results. In the last 7 days 2400 and yesterday only 2000. There are in excess of 5000 host computers. -P <img src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/teambanner.php?teamname=GasBuddy"> <img src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/banner.php?cpid=84c0cf7846cbf28338406e54b3eb8a83"> |
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