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Message 6866 - Posted: 7 Apr 2005, 15:07:10 UTC

Not that you get a complaint from me, but what is said in the FAQ doesn't hold anymore: Users that returned identical results will get same amount of credit, which is an average of claimed credit when lowest and highest value is ignored.

One of my own results, shows that the two highest are added up and divided by two.

Littlebouncer's unit here, shows the same behaviour.

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Message 6867 - Posted: 7 Apr 2005, 15:34:41 UTC - in response to Message 6866.  
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> Not that you get a complaint from me, but what is said in the FAQ doesn't hold
> anymore: Users that returned identical results will get same amount of
> credit, which is an average of claimed credit when lowest and highest value is
> ignored.

>
> One of my own
> results
, shows that the two highest are added up and divided by two.
>
> Littlebouncer's
> unit here
, shows the same behaviour.
>
> :)
>
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That WU was crunched with CC 4.25; the 'Flops' now showing for this host is from CC 4.19!
otherwise I see nothing spec. calc. and validation as it should (calculation for the granted credit = arithmetical middle of the first three returns not the median!)

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Message 6868 - Posted: 7 Apr 2005, 15:58:08 UTC

It shouldn't matter what BOINC version is being used, since BOINC itself doesn't crunch anything. It's the LHC application that crunches the LHC units. But outside that, go check the links in somewhat more detail.

The LHC FAQ specifically says they throw away the lowest and highest claimed credits (which is an average of claimed credit when lowest and highest value is ignored.) when calculating the granted credit, yet they don't. I've checked a couple of people's latest results, all show the same behaviour. I used your result as an extra example, not as something evil and bad.
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Message 6869 - Posted: 7 Apr 2005, 16:00:22 UTC - in response to Message 6866.  
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> Not that you get a complaint from me, but what is said in the FAQ doesn't hold
> anymore: Users that returned identical results will get same amount of
> credit, which is an average of claimed credit when lowest and highest value is
> ignored.

>
> One of my own
> results
, shows that the two highest are added up and divided by two.
>

Good point. There was a bug in the credit computation. Should be fixed now, though previous credit assignments will not be changed.



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Message 6870 - Posted: 7 Apr 2005, 16:28:08 UTC - in response to Message 6868.  
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> I've checked a couple of people's latest results, all show the same behaviour.

a. If this happens to all of us there is nothing to worry about it (only there is a different way of calc. the granted credit).

b. More important I think: The CERN-team has choosen this methode to calc. because of the 0-CPU-timed WU's returned (you see if there are 2 of 3 zero's, one left at zero , than 0 credits are granted....)
(I thought at that possibility, when I noticed myself this behaviour .. oh my remindings...)

-no offense at all-

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Message 6871 - Posted: 8 Apr 2005, 9:11:17 UTC - in response to Message 6868.  

> But outside that, go check the links in somewhat more detail.
>
> The LHC FAQ specifically
> says they throw away the lowest and highest claimed credits (which is an
> average of claimed credit when lowest and highest value is ignored.
) when
> calculating the granted credit, yet they don't. I've checked a couple of
> people's latest results, all show the same behaviour.

It seems to work now 'right'!
example

Good work team!

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