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Message 5873 - Posted: 22 Feb 2005, 17:24:27 UTC

I notice that while crunching LHC WUs, there is a disk access every single second of every minute, coincident with the Work tab's updates to it's CPU/Progress/Completion times.

Seems a bit excessive to me. My disk interval pref is set to the default 60. Is this normal/expected?

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Message 5876 - Posted: 22 Feb 2005, 18:18:28 UTC

Might be something else than BOINC writing to disk. Spyware, a virus, just Windows writing to or reading from the page file. But LHC pretty much follows the write to disk settings.
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Message 5882 - Posted: 22 Feb 2005, 19:17:43 UTC

PeteHow is correct. The LHC application is writing to a large number of files in the slots directory very frequently.

The files are named fort.xx where xx is a number.

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Message 5884 - Posted: 22 Feb 2005, 19:28:58 UTC

He may have ran into a 10,000 cycle unit. Those are used to check the code with and only run for 10k cycles. Approximate run time, 10 minutes?

Yet try a unit of 100,000 of 1,000,000 cycles and see if it still writes to disk every second of every minute.
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Message 5888 - Posted: 22 Feb 2005, 19:43:40 UTC - in response to Message 5884.  

> Yet try a unit of 100,000 of 1,000,000 cycles and see if it still writes to
> disk every second of every minute.
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Currently I'm running a 100,000 turn wu. It's writing to 30 fort.xx files very frequently.
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Message 5895 - Posted: 22 Feb 2005, 20:01:21 UTC

Yes, and how many times is very frequently? What have you set your preferences on the site to write to disk at? Do you use these same preferences for other projects?

There are projects which ignore the standard BOINC setting of 60 seconds, and write to disk earlier or only once every 30 minutes.

My preference is set to write to disk every 10 seconds.
I made sure I am spyware free, virus free, worm free. I don't index any NTFS drives when part of my system is idle.

So how can you be sure that when you see the light on your harddrive blink, that it is writing part of LHC to the harddrive?
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Message 5900 - Posted: 22 Feb 2005, 20:14:01 UTC

I think sixtrack doesn't know anything about BOINC disk write preferences, and it would be extremely hard to make sixtrack follow them. Sixtrack development started about 10 years ago (AFAIK), and BOINC wasn't even introduced then.

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Message 5913 - Posted: 22 Feb 2005, 20:44:09 UTC - in response to Message 5895.  

> Yes, and how many times is very frequently? What have you set your preferences
> on the site to write to disk at? Do you use these same preferences for other
> projects?
>
> There are projects which ignore the standard BOINC setting of 60 seconds, and
> write to disk earlier or only once every 30 minutes.
>
> My preference is set to write to disk every 10 seconds.
> I made sure I am spyware free, virus free, worm free. I don't index any NTFS
> drives when part of my system is idle.
>
> So how can you be sure that when you see the light on your harddrive blink,
> that it is writing part of LHC to the harddrive?
>

Get a grip on yourself. I posted to confirm PeteHow was correct. And that there was not a spyware, virus issue or anything else involved. I can be sure because I used 2 programs to verify that it was LHC's application writing to disk. I never stated it was a problem.

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Message 5917 - Posted: 22 Feb 2005, 20:53:54 UTC - in response to Message 5913.  

> @Ageless - don't dismiss someone's post so easily.
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I didn't dismiss any post so easily, I just asked. That you got inbetween and started your reaction on me, only managed to get a reaction back. Yet in all the unedited posts you made above, but for the one directly above, you never mentioned once you didn't have a PC infection of some sort.

So don't dismiss my posts too easily.
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Message 5941 - Posted: 23 Feb 2005, 0:41:53 UTC - in response to Message 5876.  
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> Might be something else than BOINC writing to disk. Spyware, a virus, just
> Windows writing to or reading from the page file. But LHC pretty much follows
> the write to disk settings.
>
I've got mine set to write every 120 sec and six track write every 3-4 sec.
it's like a train running on tracks.

Don't give me that virus,and spyware thing ,i've got an utility to monitor my drive.

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Seti ( running exactly 120 secs)and einstein don't seem to have this problem, or the previous version of sixtrack


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