1) Message boards : Number crunching : Deadlines extended again? (Message 9875)
Posted 3 Sep 2005 by outlawolf
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Though i can understand the wish for an extended deadline due to holiday, you knew of the holiday well before now, you could have set LHC to no new work in time to not even have to worry about it. So next time, just think ahead and take the situation in your own hands. or would you rather rely on someone else to ensure your crunch time isn't wasted?
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Deadlines extended again? (Message 9862)
Posted 2 Sep 2005 by outlawolf
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I downloaded a WU yesterday, had a deadline of Sept. 6. Just downloaded another one a minute ago and the deadline is the 11th. have they extended the deadlines again or something?
3) Message boards : Number crunching : out of work ... for a long time ? (Message 9595)
Posted 23 Aug 2005 by outlawolf
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ahh well, i only got one WU, so i guess i will just have to go back to crunching for protienpredictor or Einstein again once its done...

more work please! i'd rather crunch for LHC!
4) Message boards : Number crunching : out of work ... for a long time ? (Message 9592)
Posted 23 Aug 2005 by outlawolf
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yeh, there was work for a minute there, but now its all gone. i would think there is more coming...
5) Message boards : Number crunching : only 10 k WU's left (Message 9512)
Posted 20 Aug 2005 by outlawolf
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and also, you forget the Chinese and Japanese civilization in your analysis. They have existed for thousands of years already, continually evolving socially and technologically.

my overall point is that NO Civilization that exist today was the first to look at the star (or the atom) and wonder what? why? or how? Even if all civilization falls and we must begin again, the questions will remain.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : only 10 k WU's left (Message 9511)
Posted 20 Aug 2005 by outlawolf
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you miss my point, i said nothing of any particular civilization. I speak of humanity as a whole. People tend to forget that evolution didnt stop with the opposible thumb. Homo Sapiens AS A WHOLE has existed on Earth for many many thousands of years, constantly evolving technologically. Just because a new culture is formed as old one perish doesn't make the dead civilization any less human, nor the new one. MikeW, you are correct in your analysis of past human civilizations. Many have not survive more than a few centuries. But we still remember them, even thousands of years later. Now, do you think the cultures of the present world will be forgotten once they are gone? Do you think the questions that we asked will be forgot because we dont find the answer? My point was that no matter what may rise in the future, as long as HUMANS, not Americans or French or ect., exist, the question will remain, as will the drive to find the answer.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : only 10 k WU's left (Message 9495)
Posted 19 Aug 2005 by outlawolf
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after posting that message i looked at the topic for the thread and relize i am WAY off topic, so my apologize to the author. :)
8) Message boards : Number crunching : only 10 k WU's left (Message 9494)
Posted 19 Aug 2005 by outlawolf
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though MikeW's analogies are technically correct in regards to the needle, haystack, and field, i find the estimate of success alittle pessimistic. As I am fond of saying, 'Given a long enough time-line, everyone's chances of survival drop to zero', which is my own way of saying your all goin to die. But this is true in the reverse when applied to SETI or any other project. Given a long enough time-line, these project's chances of success will reach 100%, even SETI. I believe this because humanity has the capablity to grow on a near infinite scale. We are only held down by ourselves. So provided we survive to expand beyond Earth, the possiblity that we as a race will become extinct decrease greatly, as do the events that could cause such an extinction. Should we one day reach beyond our own sun, the events that could cause the destruction of humanity become very limited, the greatest of them being a hostile alien race. From that point forward, the time-line available becomes the lifetime of the universe itself, which as we can guess, is a realllllllly long time. From there, either we expand until it is all ours, every star until the end of time, or we find others and compete for dominance, but either way, the answer is found.

in response to Thierry Drumel:
>>I said Seti because it's not a real scientific subject (for the participants).

It may take hundreds, even thousands, of years to answer such a question as 'are we alone', i believe it will one day be answer, providing, of course, we are still here to ask it. So to say that SETI has no scientific value to its particapants is an inaccuracy, because SETI is the beginnings of the answer to a question humans have been asking, and will continue asking, for many years. The scientific value to all of humanity is apparent, not only in the philosophical and theological areas, but also the scientific development of the human race. What do you think people would do if faced with undisputable evidence that alien life existed? I would say that the reach for the stars would be a vicious one, because a constant of human nature (sadly) is greed. People will want those stars for themselves, if only so that some 'little green man' doesn't get it first. Growth beyond Earth would become active because of the 'manifest destiny' various major religons preach. Granted SETI has no immediate value to the participants in the realm of science, but the question it seeks to answer, those three little deceptively complex words, is among the greatest science has asked. I would be very disappointed if that question where easily answered.
9) Message boards : Cafe LHC : news from orbit@home (Message 9489)
Posted 19 Aug 2005 by outlawolf
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> The project sounds absolutely ludicrous. Why would anyone want do a project
> about NEO colliding with Earth? Thats sounds crazy but then again i'll
> probably do it. Going to sign up for it has soon has they open up the account
> creation.

my word, someone how thinks more work is crazy!
10) Message boards : Number crunching : only 10 k WU's left (Message 9488)
Posted 19 Aug 2005 by outlawolf
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though a message about the reason work is out would be nice, the clear statement on the web page that the server is out of work was all i needed to activate another project before my queue emptied. Boinc is more than capable of handling this work/no work thing without any interaction from users.

>> Do you think it's better to run Seti non stop, night and day, to find that >> stupid little green man and never do something concrete?
>> I don't think so.

hey now, that 'stupid little green man' could make projects like LHC@Home irrelevant (just a possiblity, not a statement of truth) with new technologies, and why is SETI not 'concrete'? Einstein@home is similar in scope as SETI, except they look for pulsars instead of 'little green men'. does that make it non-'concrete'?



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