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LoL'z i dont think that they can predict as to which set of magnets will require further tuning.
Regards
Masud.

I also have 3 WU's 0.00 claimed pending credits! One of those WU's http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/workunit.php?wuid=1892389

Actually, you're claiming, from the top one to the bottom one, 0.00233318497995638, 0.00408711093157513 and 0.00235602975402844 credit.

You had three very fast tasks, of less than a second to slightly over a second.
If you check the workunit IDs, you see that everyone claimed so little credit for those tasks.

Where have all the wu's gone??

I understand that there are 2 different causes to the "zombie" WU's.. I've got about 30 of the 0.00xx pending, and maybe 20 of the "long lost granted" WU's (and two that errored out long ago...).

In both cases, however, it does incdicate a cleanup is in order!

Here's one from 2005 that was granted credit:

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=694330

If you try to look at the WU, you get an error that says "workunit not found"

• Orphan ResultID: For every result that does not have a matching WU header, delete Result.
  
• Validated WU that hasn't been Assimilated: Look at assimilator code to find out the cause and correct the cause.
  
• 0.00xx claimed credit results that aren't validating: Look at validator code to find the cause and correct the cause.
  

Of course, all of this might be taken care of by the BOINC server-side code upgrade that still needs to be performed...

IMO, YMMV, etc, etc, etc...

Hey, I got some of these 0.00xxx results from April.. If they're not in the DB now, they never will be!

In total, I got about 50 of these 0.00xx results, and some that were actually granted real credit back in 2005!

Housekeeping time!

I now have 31 pending and all are showing the above problem (0.00xxxxxx claim).
Can these be validated or killed please?

After the recent outage, I just tried a project update to report results and get new work and received the following:

6/11/2007 5:57:28 AM|lhcathome|Fetching scheduler list
6/11/2007 5:57:33 AM|lhcathome|Master file download succeeded
6/11/2007 5:57:38 AM|lhcathome|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 28700 seconds of work, reporting 7 completed tasks
6/11/2007 5:57:53 AM|lhcathome|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
6/11/2007 5:57:53 AM|lhcathome|Message from server: Project encountered internal error: shared memory

Problems?

Live long and BOINC!

If crunching LHC doesn't earn respect from LHC then do tell what we have to do to get respect. Stand on our heads and spit out gold ingots?

What has LHC shared with us regarding how our donation is used? Seems about all we know is that we're helping to align the magnets. Wonderful! I'm sincerely glad to help but I think we deserve a few more details about IR when there seems to be no need for it to be as high as it is plus better server software.

OK, so they post like "we're tweaking Sixtrack and the result verifier". Is that going to keep the k00ks happy? Probably not. So then the k00ks ask questions like "what are you doing to Sixtrack and the verifier". The team responds with technical details. Then the k00ks need to know what the technical details mean. And if the team doesn't respond with a crash course on BOINC Server the k00ks get all pissy that the team doesn't care and threaten to quit anyway. Give the k00ks the boot, cancel their accounts, they're just attention seeking kids that yammer on and on about nothing important just to yank people's chains. Yah, you got it, they're trolls.

I hope nothing major breaks. I'd really be whizzed off if I lost my 0.00198303589808177 credit!

Hmmm... isn't that the Reverse Polish Notation of the square root of the cosine of PI????

with the WU's available over the last couple weeks, I now have about 20 "pending", where the claimed is of the 0.00xxxx variety.

The LHC server seems to consider these two 1-second results a great success. Over - Success - Done. Exit code 0. I can find no crash or error messages or codes and the tasks didn't go through the Ready to report stage.

Maybe they were bewitched on Hallowe'en.

Fine, consider all these protest messages as us doing what we gotta do to teach them what they need to learn in order to run a respectful project.
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It may seem that way to you but to others it seems like they are now starting to take an interest in what's posted here rather than just laughing and walking away. Yes, at least that much has been accomplished, finally.

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Maybe a little taste of their own medicine will get us, the people who donate the CPU time that makes this project work, the respect we deserve.

Just my opinion.

It seems to me that LHC is running an older version of BOINC that's not as intelligent at allowing me to merge hosts as SETI and Einstein are. Are there plans to move to a newer rev any time soon so I can get my host stats lined up again?

OK, so I misread the POST header. But still the back off times were not for the reason of reaching the daily quota, I had see that before. But the systems were unattended and I was not controling the times of the WAIT between communication events, it was all on the software and the server. If I go back far enough in the logs I will find an item similar to the one shown above. When I looked at the web site after the last message I saw that there was work, about 90,000 units at that time and rising as I refreshed.

Edit: OK, I figure perhaps the 30-minute backoff was to try to get reporting done before forcing the 24-hour backoff. Dunno what to say. I'll check to see what happens with the 4 units I pick up over the next 2 hours, but I think the 30-minute rule doesn't get the final 2 results reported until tomorrow unless I hit the update button myself...

Matched UK time tonite, but daylight saving time ends today in the UK - is it the same in Switzerland?