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21) Message boards : Number crunching : Time to Completion (Message 7979) Posted 5 Jun 2005 by STE\/E Post: Why is it that the projects find it so hard to estimate the completion time like they do. ========== Sometimes the Project itself over estimates the time it will take to complete the WU's in an effort to slow down the amount of WU's 1 Host can download at one time ... But I don't know if this is the case with the latest LHC WU's or not, I know I can remember some time ago over at the Seti Site they purposefully added time to the WU's to slow down the downloads ...

22) Message boards : Number crunching : no work from project (Message 7963) Posted 4 Jun 2005 by STE\/E Post: > How long are you letting them sit? I've seen the progress bar sit on 100% for > pretty much all of the projects, while it "finishes up". Basically, the > calculation of a progress bar is not perfect, and they all usually sit on the > end for a few minutes, since they are not truly done. By interrupting and > restarting them, you may be restarting that last few minutes of work. ========== First off I'm using v4.44 on all my Computers, it has a lot of features I like & sooner or later everybody's going to have to go to the new versions... I've let them sit there for 10-15 minutes, usually when these LHC WU's get to 100% they report immediately. This getting to 100% & sitting there for a long period of time has been a on going problem with certain LHC WU's since the Project began. When the Project first started out it was nothing for a WU to sit at 100% for hours on end & you would either have to restart the Client or just abort the WU. If a WU sits there for more than a few minutes after it gets to 100% then something is wrong with either the WU or the BOINC Client. It simply is not the normal behavior for a WU to just sit at 100% for 10 or 15 minutes or even longer with no completion of the WU IMO ...

23) Message boards : Number crunching : no work from project (Message 7959) Posted 4 Jun 2005 by STE\/E Post: :( ... only 10,000 for me ... :( ... :P Something I've noticed with the new WU's is that they seem to like to hang a lot upon completion on all my computers, they just sit there saying 100% done & wont Upload & or Report. I have to stop & restart the client a lot to get them to Upload & Report & then start the next WU ... ??? I've got 1 right now that just refuses to completely finish & upload even though I've restarted it 4 times already, each time I restart it it resets to 2:28 min to go and then when it gets done it just sits there doing nothing ...

24) Message boards : Number crunching : no work from project (Message 7951) Posted 4 Jun 2005 by STE\/E Post: > I think they are running short test jobs through, which explains the miniscule > number of jobs that sporadically pop up. Either that, or they're cleaning up > old jobs that didn't complete for whatever reason, so they can get the results > off everyone's accounts and the server. > > I would think 30,000 1-million turn jobs would take at least an hour or so to > get sucked up. :-) ========= The ones I've been getting today are in the 3 1/2 to 4 hour range for my HT Computers running 2 at a time. So they've increased in length the last few days from 20 to 30 min's ... And all the WU's I've been getting are fairly new ones not reruns ... :)

25) Message boards : Number crunching : no work from project (Message 7950) Posted 4 Jun 2005 by STE\/E Post: > > hang on i just got one ========== Dang, how did I let that one slip by me ... hahaha ... ;)

26) Message boards : Number crunching : WU's not listed in the resultstable. (Message 7945) Posted 3 Jun 2005 by STE\/E Post: (*)explain: 'Monkey'-WU named by PoorBoy for WU's with name "D1D2MQonly...". ========== The Monkey name was actually a term coined by someone else that I have E-Mail contact with & I just picked up on it ... ;)

27) Message boards : Number crunching : The Anticipation is Growing...... (Message 7915) Posted 2 Jun 2005 by STE\/E Post: grrr. You'll get yours. I'm a firm believer in "What goes around, comes around." ;-) ========== hahahahahaha ... I guess your right, I must have returned them so fast the server has decided to give me a couple of hundred WU's on each of my computers ... tomorrow must have come ... :P

28) Message boards : Number crunching : The Anticipation is Growing...... (Message 7908) Posted 2 Jun 2005 by STE\/E Post: I just noticed I must have received 38 LHC WU's Today, it must have took all of 5 min's to do them all ... What the heck were they about ... hehe ... :P My Computers are pretty much just sitting here Idling & patiently waiting for more LHC WU's. I've given up on most of the other Projects. Pirates & BURP have no Work to send. Predictor seems to be having problems I don't care to get involved in. CPDN has raked me over the coals the last few days with several thousand credits lost due to software changes & or server problems. So that only leaves Seti & Einstein & I don't want to get loaded up with their WU's & then have LHC release theirs. Then I would have to get rid of the Seti & Einstein WU's by some devious manner ... hahaha Anyway my CPU's are getting a well deserved rest & running nice & cool for a change ... :P

29) Message boards : Number crunching : New server binaries (Message 7895) Posted 1 Jun 2005 by STE\/E Post: I'm giving it a few more revisions and if things don't change, I'm finished with BOINC. ========== :O ... :(

30) Message boards : Number crunching : New server binaries (Message 7885) Posted 30 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: If I have understood correctly our physics team, new work will be released very soon (tomorrow I hope). ========== Woot ... It must tomorrow, I recieved 32 LHC WU's the last few hours ... hahaha ... :P

31) Message boards : Number crunching : BURP Warning ... !!! (Message 7879) Posted 30 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: You may be able to fix this more easily than that ... Look in the client state XML file and look to see if the project name has been changed, if so, change it back. If there is more than one line in the scheduler list, delete all but the correct one. Restart BOINC ... ========== Yup, I figured that out after fixing a few of my PC's the hard way Paul, I did that on the rest of them and it seemed to work ...

32) Message boards : Number crunching : please fix the deleter .... (Message 7876) Posted 30 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: Yes, exactly. I'll make sure that they get deleted eventually... Markku Degerholm LHC@home admin ========== I wouldn't be to quick to jump the gun Markku, I noticed I've had a few WU's get Credit the last few days that I didn't think I would get any for ... :P

33) Message boards : Number crunching : BURP Warning ... !!! (Message 7875) Posted 30 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: > What does "taking over the account" mean in this situation? > > I'm sorry that you are experiencing problems while running BURP. ========== Janus, it means BURP either re-names an Account like LHC to BURP & re-names the LHC WU's to BURP WU's even though they are still LHC WU's. Then when you finish the newly re-named WU's from LHC or whatever Project you can't report them properly because the BOINC Manager doesn't recognize them as LHC WU's anymore & you can't get Credit for them either... Also when a call goes in for more LHC or Pirate WU's the call gets routed through the BURP Project instead so you can't get anymore work either, I saw this in the xml files. The call was going out for more Pirate WU's but it was showing the call going through to the BURP Site instead of the Pirates Site. Pirates@Home will do the same thing from time to time to the other Projects you are attached to. Heck, LHC@Home was even doing it for awhile ... My 1 computer is still all screwed up & has been for 3 days now because of it. This morning I started deleting everything pertaining to BOINC on that Computer & going through the Registry getting rid of everything for BOINC. Hopefully by doing this it will straighten itself out ...

34) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it Next Week yet ... ??? (Message 7862) Posted 29 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: QUOTE - 20.5.2005 12:39 UTC "Good News: The latest run has finished successfully. Two of the five studies we also ran locally. The studies run on LHC@home are 100% identical to the control studies. Some new scripts have been developed which hopefully should increase the speed and ease of use of the job submission. Finally we are planning a big study of the beam to beam effect, hopefully starting next week." ========== hehehe ... maybe the developers should be more specific about which next week they are referring to when they say next week ... :P

35) Message boards : Number crunching : BURP Warning ... !!! (Message 7861) Posted 29 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: Which CC version are you using? It may be, that you have an outdated BOINC client (versions prior to 4.41 have caused such problems). ========== All my problems began when I installed v4.44 on all my PC's, it started out with most of the Managers Freezing up after running a short while. Then when I went back to v4.25 the Pirates, BURP & LHC Projects took turns taking over the other Accounts I was Attached to. I got it straightened out after 6 hr's of messing around with the xml files. So far it hasn't happened again & I even re-installed v4.44 on just 1 PC this morning and it has run 5 hr's so far without freezing up ... But the funny thing was as soon as I install the v4.44 the Pirates Project took over the LHC Account again, I fixed it right away & Pirates hasn't tried it again so far ... :/

36) Message boards : Number crunching : BURP Warning ... !!! (Message 7857) Posted 29 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: I have just spent about the last 6 hours straightening out my Accounts on all my Computers because it seems BURP was on the attack again and taking over all of the other Project Accounts ... I managed to get everything straightened out again by getting rid of everything in the xml files that pertained to BURP and detaching all my computers from BURP ... Sorry to say I had some major loss of WU's though, 2 CPDN WU's with about 200 hr's each done on them and 5 or 6 Pirate WU's waiting to be done. But I did manage to save and Report 15 finished Pirate WU's on 1 PC after I got it fixed again ... :)

37) Message boards : Number crunching : Funny thing with BOINC 4.43 (Message 7855) Posted 28 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: > I also upgraded to 4.44 and it froze everything... CPDN was frozen at the very > start running at 0.00% Downgraded to 4.25 again and now it's crunching at > 48.61%... ========= Yup, I tried 3 times restarting the v4.44 client and left it alone for awhile and each time I came back it was froze up on all my PC's ... Nice client version ... D'oh ... I finally just went back to v4.25 myself in order to restore some sanity to myself ... hehe

38) Message boards : Number crunching : Funny thing with BOINC 4.43 (Message 7851) Posted 28 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: I like the new v4.44 version even better than the v4.43, my computers will get lot's of rest as I see it. For 1 you can't get any work because it won't Request any & 2 if the Manager happens to screw up and actually give you a little work it just freezes up after a bit anyway & stops running the WU's... I went out to my Pole Barn for a few hours after I installed v4.44 on all my Computers & when I came back in the Manager on every one of my PC's was Froze up & wasn't running anything according to the Task Manager ... But I guess I can look at the Bright Side, my Computers will last forever at this rate ... :/

39) Message boards : Number crunching : Funny thing with BOINC 4.43 (Message 7850) Posted 28 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: One feature I would like to see implemented is to be able to select more than 1 WU at a time to Suspend or Abort ... I know you can just Suspend the whole Project which will Suspend all the WU's for that Project you have at that time but what I'm talking about is say you have 30 LHC WU's on 1 computer & want to just Suspend 10 or 15 of them at 1 time instead of having to Suspend each one individually ...

40) Message boards : Number crunching : Funny thing with BOINC 4.43 (Message 7847) Posted 28 May 2005 by STE\/E Post: My point of view is as simple as I am, just let me crunch! Just let get the clients the work, so far nearly never had any problems with dealined works. ========== @ Ric, exactly, just let me crunch & don't back me into a corner with some Manager thats overly restrictive & demanding on what, when, & which WU's I crunch ...

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