Posts by Logan5@SETI.USA

61) Message boards : Number crunching : Holy WU's ... BatMan ... !!! (Message 7341) Posted 30 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: 124436....and STILL going up! Now there's REALLY no excuse to see a thread crying about the lack of work.... DAMN!! I didn't think the scientists @ CERN had this in them. :) The hamsters in the spinning wheels that make the WU's must REALLY be tired by now.
62) Message boards : Number crunching : Holy WU's ... BatMan ... !!! (Message 7338) Posted 30 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: > 105k+!! Thank you lhc@home staff! Wonder how many of them will be of the 0:00 Zero Credit variety?? grin :)
63) Message boards : LHC@home Science : UK Particle Physicists Prepare for Data Torrent (Message 7336) Posted 30 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: Nice to see that the infrastructure can handle large amounts of data. I'm probably dreaming, but I hope that this means that they might open the beta to a wider audience because of this.. :)
64) Message boards : Number crunching : Download seems to work now! (Message 7307) Posted 29 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: > Also it seems that only s16_ and s18_ are 'critcal' WU's , with very short > running-time. > > BTW: 'critical WU' don't mean; that you abort it! They are fast finished but > important for science! > Sounds like a GOOD correlation to how Seti "Classic" used to have HIGH Angle Range and LOW Angle Range Work Units. While BOTH were important to the science, one is better to get faster stat increases with.... ;)
65) Message boards : Number crunching : News Update? (Message 7306) Posted 29 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: Indeed.... Remember Admin's & Dev's, the way to a project members heart is through their eyes and ears with <B><I>regular and consistent</B></I> communication and updates.... So, how's everying in CERN land.....?
66) Message boards : Number crunching : Hurry up! (Message 7296) Posted 28 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: Like somebody else already said: "If you run out of work now with the glut, it's your own damn fault...." - A Wise LHC member
67) Message boards : Number crunching : Hurry up! (Message 7271) Posted 28 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: Going up even as we speak.... Now at 31934 workunits avaiable for your crunching pleasure.
68) Message boards : Number crunching : How about a "Waiting List"? (Message 7270) Posted 28 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: Yes, I think that after CAREFUL consideration that the project is on a somewhat steady course ATM with the resources we currently have. I am a member of Team Starfire over @ Broadbandreports.com and I have been in touch with literally dozens of interested team members whould would like to participate, but I have to tell them they have to wait until the sixtrack platform is a bit more stable. I agree that the people used to working within CERN's 'offbeat' ways do know the routine and that a huge influx of n00bs would probably more counterproductive at this point in time then is needed. The Project Dev's honestly seem to have more important issues to deal with then changing the wet nappies of new users unused to the way that LHC works who are likely to pitch a fit at the first signs of anything amiss.... Would a waiting list help control the new influx of users? sure it would but an open BETA is designed (or can be) to open the floodgates and put a "real world" level of stress on the infrastructure to see if it can maintain under the influx of many new users, which I don't see how the Dev's could get accurate info with only a few new members slowly trickling in...they'd need far larger numbers then what we all are Or not..... :)
69) Message boards : Number crunching : quiet (Message 7196) Posted 25 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: LOL...still chewing through the latest batch of 100k Turn "v64lhc.D1-D2-MQonly-inj-no-skew" WU's..... Fast little buggers.... Got over a 100 of them spread over 4 machines and now they're almost gone. And since my RAC has dropped by over 1/2, yes it looks like the Validator is doing it's job.
70) Message boards : Number crunching : Is the validator doing it's job? (Message 7161) Posted 22 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: > That is the effect() of start then stop of the project(from the LHC-side); > each time it takes 4 days that enough results are returned that they get > validated when they are reported.(there must be 2 other success returns and > yours) > > ()result is an up and down of pending, RAC, and ...and... > > greetz littleBouncer > (on the run for the first 100 K) > > Ahhhhhhhh.... OK then. Now I understand. Everytime there's new work, it will be at least 4 days for the project to 'catch up' to where it should be, then when they run out of work, that amount of time starts all over at the beginning when new work eventually shows up. It's very much like the old saying "Which came first, the chicken or the egg"? VERY circular reasoning... I wonder if I will reach 1000 pending credit before they catch up this time??? LOL
71) Message boards : Number crunching : Is the validator doing it's job? (Message 7159) Posted 22 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: I am curious why suddenly there seems to be a backlog of pending credit that is getting larger and larger each day with very little work actually being granted credit per day... Example: I 'posted' only 4 cobblestones yesterday, but my "pending credit" went from 511 to 625 in that same time period. The new WU's are all 100000 turn so I would think that they would be finished quickly enough by the others in the quorum to grant the results if I had returned the first result? I'm not complaining because it will eventually sort it's self out, I am just curious as to what might have happened behind the scenes that's different Thanks... :)
72) Message boards : Number crunching : top hosts error? (Message 7144) Posted 22 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: Selling grannies on the black market for LHC Work Units....hmmmmmmmmmm :/ Ewwwwwww....That's just wrong on <B><I>TOO</B></I> many levels...... Funny, but wrong.... ;) Quote=Yoda "funny yes it is young padawan, but funny is does not make funny right...." I got an uncle and a few nephews I can trade for an LHC T-Shirt, how muchare they worth?
73) Message boards : Number crunching : LHC Project Demise ... ??? (Message 7103) Posted 21 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: It's REAL simple. <B>EITHER</B> a) Your dedicated to the Science and will stick with the project until it's cancelled forever, understanding that LHC is a "Work In Progress" and adapting to the sporadic nature of the work as the LHC Project continues to grow and refine the Science and it's programming to fix all the issues wrong with it.... OR b) You are impatient (for many different reasons) with LHC because you think that they are not resolving what you think are important issues quickly enough, or that they don't take you seriously when you TRY to tell the project admins about serious bugs, client problems, etc...etc... so you decide to stop crunching and move to another project that you consider to be "more stable". If this were a poll, I'd be voting for <B><I>a)</B></I> as I truly beleive that this particular project has some real potential to revolutionize an important part of the Physics Scientific Community..... Some of you may think that my sentiment is as silly as those people who look for aliens with radio signals, but I personally think that every BOINC project has some measure of merit and or potential in it's particular field... So, either stay here with LHC and show your dedication to the science as the problems are all eventually fixed, or leave now so there's more work available for those will not sit with machines filled with work that goes unused because their clients are either too outdated or BOINC's not run often enough to crunch the work before it's deadline passes. The Choice is your and your's alone to make, but no matter WHAT you decide to think about LHC and the way they do things, <B><I>PLEASE</B></I> do not continue to take work and then not crunch it just because some problem with the client or whatever makes you mad and say "The hell with this project" because that's not FAIR to the rest of us who are willing to work within the peculiar way that LHC currently uses to generate work for our machines to have to do without because you are mad and dont want to give it your cycles.
74) Message boards : Number crunching : New Add-On Software (Message 7008) Posted 14 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: Should be interesting....Thanks for the link. I had no idea there were SO many apps already developed for BOINC...this can only get better with time if there's already this many of them and BOINC is still maturing. :)
75) Message boards : Number crunching : 4.64 and 4.66 units what should i do with them ? (Message 6986) Posted 13 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: > Should I run them wait for 4.67 ? > > Or should I "reset" the project and discard the few units I do have ? > > > Unless instructed to discard or delete work by a Project Admin, you should <B><I>ALWAYS</B></I> crunch & upload what you got. Think of it like this: The science is still valid even if there's other problems happening, so the science benefits from your contributions, even if it doesn't seem like it. Plus at least with LHC, the work is pretty rare, so it's unfair to all the people who didn't get ANY work if you take work that they could have had and then just delete it. May the Crunch be with you.... :)
76) Message boards : Number crunching : donated time wasted (Message 6952) Posted 10 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: Also, said by Project Admin Markku Degerholm in this thread: http://lhcathome.cern.ch/forum_thread.php?id=1271 Posted: 5 Apr 2005 17:01:28 UTC "At least zero CPU time and progress indicator problems have been resolved. We continue testing of the clients until our physicists are ready to generate more work." Markku Degerholm LHC@home admin I now after reading this, STRONGLY recommend that you take my option to upgrade to the latest Sixtrack and BOINC Core Client more seriously....
77) Message boards : Number crunching : donated time wasted (Message 6951) Posted 10 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: > i am talking about wu's that will never report anything because they restart > at 0% after every switch between projects. > also, you suggest, like thegasgiant and other people, i should read older > messages on the board. in this case i did, without result. > i have however simply not the time to read all the boards of the projects i > donate to. do you mean boinc is only for people who have so many spare time so > they can read all these boards? I did some research for you and came up with the following older threads of interest that are similar to your problem as you state it above. One thing you'll notice is that they ALL have older BOINC Core Clients and GUI's as well as Sixtrack Versions in common....You can reach your own conclusions as to if that is a factor in your situation or not. IMHO: I'd recommend that you make sure that you get the LATEST BOINC Core Client From Berkeley and reset LHC until you get the 4.66 Sixtrack then monitor your progress as you crunch the WU's. http://lhcathome.cern.ch/forum_thread.php?id=1218 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/forum_thread.php?id=1177 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/forum_thread.php?id=1198#6163 Somewhat Similar... And finally my apologies to you if I sounded Critical of you before. There's many people here who like to complain to hear their voices, and I didn't look past the complaint to see the valid question behind it when I saw your post in the early morning hours.... :]
78) Message boards : Number crunching : donated time wasted (Message 6932) Posted 10 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: The sixtrack 4.64 DOES have the "zero credit" problem that has supposedly been corrected in the new 4.66. I'll wager that all your "continued" problems are really nothing more then you're still crunching under the older version. If so, you have 3 choices: 1) Be patient and wait. Your clients will eventually down the 4.66 sixtrack 2) Reset the project which will delete everything in your LHC folder and download new work under the 4.66 3) Move to another project if the admins and the project are not meeting your expectations. There's nothing keeping you here if you are as unhappy as you appear to be.... If you've bothered to look through the older posts, you'll see that the admins do NOT consider the "zero credit" WU's a waste as it's still the science being processed regardless, and that SHOULD be the most important reason to crunch, NOT the credits granted or the glory or whatever else drives a person. Does this help clear things up for you?
79) Message boards : Number crunching : Pressing F5 causes error in sixtrack screensaver gui. (Message 6920) Posted 9 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: Sounds like an important bug has been found... Now let's see how important it is to the project developers and how high of a priority they place on fixing it. Good job to those who discovered this....Guess that's why LHC is still considered a BETA project eh....? :)
80) Message boards : Number crunching : WU for only on of my machines ??? (Message 6889) Posted 8 Apr 2005 by Logan5@SETI.USA Post: There's still some little bit of work available until who knows when, so everyone better get it before it's gone again... :)

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