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1) Message boards : Theory Application : This gonna be long
Message 53134
Posted 4 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to Crystal Pellet's message of 1 Mar 2026:
Theory_2922-4886297-643_2 runtime so far 49h43m09s doing: Integrate 465 of 760: - After integration part 50000 events

Theory_2922-4898459-649_2 runtime so far 25h44m57s doing: Integrate 168 of 760: - After integration part 32000 events
The first one has finished after 5 days and 15 hours. The second has done 10% of 32000 events.

Edit: The second one just finished after 5 days and 9 hours run time.
2) Message boards : Theory Application : This gonna be long
Message 53129
Posted 7 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to dskagcommunity's message of 2 Mar 2026:
oohh i read it now..."show graphics"...never saw that in my long BOINC carrier xD is there any timeline in the logs i dont see that i know if it still gets finished in time with the integrations? ^^

Or is it enough to calculate the beginn of the tasks day and 496 of 700 done from the log as 2/3 is done in ..4d as example and it WILL finishing in time?
After the integrations part, the events processing starts.
That part normally is shorter than the integrations part. It also depend how many events have to be processed.
See the second last number of the very first line; mostly 100000, but with this long runners often less.
Example: ===> [runRivet] Sat Feb 28 08:17:18 UTC 2026 [boinc pp z1j 7000 250 - herwig7 7.2.1 nlo-pw 32000 649]
3) Message boards : Theory Application : This gonna be long
Message 53126
Posted 8 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to Erich56's message of 1 Mar 2026:
anyone an idea what this task after having run for more than 2 days and with result status "successful" has been classified as "invalid" ?
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=433057550
Your task was a resend with extention _2, because the Theory_2922-4856181-637_1 was too late, but that _1 returned before yours.
Your result seems to differ to the first returned one, I suppose.
4) Message boards : ATLAS application : ATLAS failed
Message 53122
Posted 8 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to Magic Quantum Mechanic's message of 1 Mar 2026:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_user.php?userid=567711
Somebody needs to stop these 88 computers from having half million of Invalid Atlas

Somebody could be you: https://triumf.ca/contact-triumf/
5) Message boards : Theory Application : This gonna be long
Message 53119
Posted 8 days ago by Crystal Pellet
Theory_2922-4886297-643_2 runtime so far 49h43m09s doing: Integrate 465 of 760: - After integration part 50000 events

Theory_2922-4898459-649_2 runtime so far 25h44m57s doing: Integrate 168 of 760: - After integration part 32000 events
6) Message boards : Theory Application : This gonna be long
Message 53117
Posted 9 days ago by Crystal Pellet
I now have two Herwig7 long runners busy. One for 15 minutes and the other already 24 hours on my system:

==========================================================>> LT1 slot 0 <<=====================================================
===> [runRivet] Sat Feb 28 08:17:18 UTC 2026 [boinc pp z1j 7000 250 - herwig7 7.2.1 nlo-pw 32000 649]
===========================================================================================================================

Integrate 1 of 760:

***************************************************
integrated ( 1.62422e-08 +/- 8.64414e-10 ) nb
epsilon = 0.000223209 chi2 = 2.66337
---------------------------------------------------
integrating ME[bbar,bbar->mu+,bbar,bbar,mu-].SubtractedReal : bbar bbar -> mu+ bbar bbar mu- , iteration 3
0% 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100%
|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|
*******************************

==========================================================>> LT1 slot 1 <<=====================================================
===> [runRivet] Fri Feb 27 08:19:04 UTC 2026 [boinc pp z1j 13000 160 - herwig7 7.2.1 nlo-pw 50000 643]
===========================================================================================================================

Integrate 254 of 760:

***************************************************
integrated ( 2.97334e-07 +/- 3.61928e-08 ) nb
epsilon = 0.00120208 chi2 = 0.692934
---------------------------------------------------
integrating ME[ubar,u->e+,bbar,b,e-].SubtractedReal.SubtractionIntegral : ubar u -> e+ bbar b e- , iteration 3
0% 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100%
|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|
*****************************************
7) Message boards : Theory Application : This gonna be long
Message 53111
Posted 10 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to Erich56's message of 27 Feb 2026:
one needs quite some patience with these Herwig7 longrunners :-); on my hosts, they use to run between 10 and 20 days, some of them even longer
My impression is that running the job in a docker container is (much) faster than using the Theory VBox-application, what corresponds with my measurements docker versus VBox with shorter Theory tasks.
Example: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=432930129 ===>> pp z1j 13000 45 - herwig7 7.2.1 nlo-dipole 54000 591
Run time 3 days 13 hours 21 min 59 sec ---- CPU time 3 days 5 hours 3 min 35 sec
8) Message boards : Theory Application : This gonna be long
Message 53108
Posted 10 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to Erich56's message of 27 Feb 2026:
In reply to Crystal Pellet's message of 27 Feb 2026:
A new one:
==================================================================================
===> [runRivet] Fri Feb 27 08:19:04 UTC 2026 [boinc pp z1j 13000 160 - herwig7 7.2.1 nlo-pw 50000 643]
==================================================================================

After 4 hours runtime: Integrate 30 of 760:
I, too, have gotten such longrunners lately.
This is one of yours: pp z1j 13000 - - herwig7 7.2.1 nlo-pw 21000 633, aborted by someone after 2.5 days.
9) Message boards : Theory Application : This gonna be long
Message 53102
Posted 10 days ago by Crystal Pellet
A new one:
==================================================================================
===> [runRivet] Fri Feb 27 08:19:04 UTC 2026 [boinc pp z1j 13000 160 - herwig7 7.2.1 nlo-pw 50000 643]
==================================================================================

After 4 hours runtime: Integrate 30 of 760:
10) Message boards : Theory Application : No Tasks
Message 53092
Posted 12 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to Erich56's message of 25 Feb 2026:
In reply to Crystal Pellet's message of 25 Feb 2026:
Edit: number of Unsent tasks slowly increasing now
not really :-(
Erich56, that was a quote from 8 February.
11) Message boards : Theory Application : No Tasks
Message 53090
Posted 12 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to Henry Loenwind's message of 25 Feb 2026:
In reply to Crystal Pellet's message of 8 Feb 2026:
Although "Unsent" still zero, I got this task: Theory_2922-4870672-586_0 batch 19655072 created 8 Feb 2026, 14:41:36 UTC

Edit: number of Unsent tasks slowly increasing now


With the queue empty, you naturally notice when a task times out or returns as error and gets put into the queue again. Check that task's history; it should have visited a couple of computers and not finished there during its lifetime.
In my original post (17 days ago) I mentioned Theory_2922-4870672-586_0, so no resend of an error or timed out task.
12) Message boards : CMS Application : CMS tasks failing
Message 53087
Posted 12 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to [VENETO] boboviz's message of 25 Feb 2026:
That's a strange error:
The filename wildcard characters * or ? were entered incorrectly or too many were specified.
(0xd0) - exit code 208 (0xd0)</message>
That's a wrong interpretation of the error code by Windows like your errors:

Nome del file o estensione troppo lunga.
(0xce) - exit code 206 (0xce)</message>

and

I caratteri jolly per i nomi di file, * o ?, sono stati immessi incorrettamente oppure ne sono stati specificati troppi.
(0xd0) - exit code 208 (0xd0)</message>
13) Message boards : Theory Application : New version v302.10 for docker
Message 53059
Posted 15 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to Henry Loenwind's message of 22 Feb 2026:
Does this mean there won't be any virtualbox tasks anymore, and I can delete the project from my config?
ATLAS and CMS will provide VBox-tasks as it was.
Theory will send you VBox-tasks, if you have WSL disabled in Windows.
14) Message boards : Theory Application : New version v302.10 for docker
Message 53057
Posted 16 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to baracutio's message of 21 Feb 2026:
It seems to me a permissions issue on your Linux system.
ATLAS tasks (native) are running fine, other BOINC projects as well. Hard to imagine that this is a simple permission issue. Any ideas how to investigate into this problem?
As you said, Atlas is running the native version, but Theory is now using docker containers.
Maybe you could use podman instead of docker.
15) Message boards : Theory Application : New version v302.10 for docker
Message 53054
Posted 16 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to baracutio's message of 21 Feb 2026:
It looks like the task is trying to copy/move the result file from the slots directory into the projects directory. Is it a necessary step?
Yes this is the normal step. Results are sent back to the server from the project directory.
It seems to me a permissions issue on your Linux system.
16) Message boards : Theory Application : This gonna be long
Message 53052
Posted 16 days ago by Crystal Pellet
After 27 hours:
17) Message boards : Theory Application : This gonna be long
Message 53050
Posted 17 days ago by Crystal Pellet
==========================================================>> LT1 slot 1 <<==========================================================
===> [runRivet] Fri Feb 20 07:46:48 UTC 2026 [boinc pp z1j 13000 45 - herwig7 7.2.1 nlo-dipole 54000 591]
=================================================================================================================================
Before event processing 760 integrations of 4 iterations each. After almost five hours: Integrate 39 of 760
18) Message boards : Theory Application : Task at 100% and still running
Message 53048
Posted 21 days ago by Crystal Pellet
In reply to [TA]Assimilator1's message of 16 Feb 2026:
Thanks :), I see this for one task I have running :-

19300 events processed
19400 events processed
19500 events processed
19600 events processed


I assume it's still running then? Is there anywhere in that file that shows progress point?
Are the warnings anything to worry about?
Don't worry about warnings as long as you see the number of events processed (slowly) increasing.
In the very first line of runRivet.log you see the job parameters. The penultimate number on that first line is how many events should be processed. Mostly 100,000 events.
Be aware that the task will not survive a system restart,
19) Message boards : Theory Application : Comparison Theory VBox versus docker (BOINC set to 100% cpu)
Message 53046
Posted 21 days ago by Crystal Pellet
Two other jobs where I tested the cpu- and elapsed time difference when using VBox rather than docker for the same job:

pp bbbar 7000 20 - pythia8 8.313 default 100000 644

vbox:   Run time  1 hours 18 min  2 sec        CPU time  1 hours 16 min 34 sec
docker: Run time          45 min  3 sec        CPU time          38 min 16 sec

pp zinclusive 8000 -,-,100,170 - pythia8 8.306 tune-AU2m 100000 650

vbox:   Run time  5 hours  7 min 54 sec        CPU time	4 hours 57 min 50 sec
docker: Run time  1 hours 54 min 10 sec        CPU time 1 hours 40 min 49 sec
20) Message boards : Theory Application : Comparison Theory VBox versus docker (BOINC set to 100% cpu)
Message 53041
Posted 22 days ago by Crystal Pellet
I noticed since we are able to run Theory In WSL container, that the docker results show a big gap between elapsed time and CPU-time (cputime much lower than elapsed)
VBox tasks don't show a big difference between elapsed and cpu-time. Sometimes even equal or CPU higher than elapsed.
I wanted to find out whether running Theory in a VirtualBox VM is faster then in a docker container on a Windows system.
To test that you should exactly run the same task in both circumstances.
I did not want to wait > 100 years to get the same job with the same parameters, so I had to manipulate the input file, so that the job is exactly doing the same processing.
A first quick test showed me that VirtualBox was -surprise- much slower. Coïncidence?
So I did a second test under the same host-load.
The outcome of 2 times job ppbar zinclusive 1800 -,-,50,130 - pythia8 8.303 CP1-CR2 100000 642

                   1. docker                               2. VirtualBox
			
Returned          15 Feb 2026, 11:11:24 UTC                15 Feb 2026, 12:37:39 UTC
Computer ID       10772116		                   10772116
Run time          19 min 22 sec		                   53 min 36 sec
CPU time          16 min 36 sec                            52 min 34 sec
Validate state    Valid                                    Valid
Credit            8.93		                           24.69
peak FLOPS        3.32 GFLOPS                              3.32 GFLOPS
App-version       Theory Simulation v302.10 (docker)       Theory Simulation v301.00 (vbox64_theory)
PeakWorkingSet    13.20 MB                                 69.93 MB
Peak swap size    6.63 MB                                  56.40 MB
Peak disk usage   8.31 MB                                  614.12 MB

job: run exitcode 0                                        0
job: diskusage    18052                                    18084
job: logsize      8072 k                                   8192 k
job: time         23m 15.5s                                50m 55.4s
job: cpuusage     1447 s                                   3080 s
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