1) Message boards : Number crunching : Too low credits granted in LHC (Message 23336)
Posted 3 Oct 2011 by ChinookFoehn
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ChinookFoehn,

As I mentioned before jujube is the banished "Dagorath" and this is his 2nd boinc site to get this not so real banishment from.

He hasn't changed at all and will try to get you to say something to get you banished too.

...

As you can see getting "banished" didn't stop him from just making a new ID and testing it out before he cheated with his credits on another boinc site he was banished from and faked like he was helping the project by seeing how many times he could get away with doing that.

Many members know about this guy from Canada who will make comments about you and where you live trying to get you to do the same.

Ignore the ____

Interesting. I gave up following threads in most of the fora, in most of the projects, years ago and only look at them when I have problems - such as the need to disconnect and reconnect.

I didn't realise so many of these types of people were still permitted to post the same tripe they were posting when BOINC first started out. I thought that was why moderators were, finally, appointed so as to control this and remove offending posts from thread.

Things haven't changed much other than the intense profanity previously used by these types seems to have been banned.

Thanks for the advice. Can't say Dagorath is known to me. If he was, I've forgotten about him as I soon will forget this jujube.

To any moderator: You may remove my comments to this jujube if you also remove his original posts. It would help clear up the thread.

-ChinookFöhn

2) Message boards : Number crunching : Too low credits granted in LHC (Message 23332)
Posted 3 Oct 2011 by ChinookFoehn
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Oh, now I see. It's logic you value. Suppose you explain to us all why allowing a few rogue projects to buy crunchers with credits is logical or beneficial to the community. Tell us why a credit war between projects is logical or beneficial? Tell us why a level playing field for all projects is fanatical. Hmmm?

As credits are meaningless, there are no rogue projects, as you put it. There is no credit war. If Milkyway and other projects attract the computers they need for having their research done by providing what you and other Credit Police consider excessive, power to them. As credits are meaningless their issued credits are also meaningless. Logical.

Who cares anyway except people like you who aren't really interested in science but more in retribution. Why do Credit Policemen like you continuously harp about a level playing field? So you can show the world your vindictiveness? In every project, all you Credit Police just show the world what a bunch of, sour-grape, totalitarian extremists your are by wanting to impose your draconian rules and run the projects your way - for moronic credits and not the science. Don't follow the your idiotic credit rules, then throw a project out as their science then has no value because your credits are more important than any science accomplished.

As per usual any discussion with credit fanatics is a wasted effort. I only hope more projects do as Milkyway, thereby attracting more computers to do their science more quickly for them, as well as generating more apoplectic rantings from the Corp of the Credit Police which can provide more amusement for us at their posted rantings.

I wish you well and hope you don't end up frothing at the mouth in your anger when the next project so affronts you at daring to violate your Credit Issuing Law of Retribution.

-ChinookFöhn
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Too low credits granted in LHC (Message 23327)
Posted 3 Oct 2011 by ChinookFoehn
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You're probably right, he can't do just anything. However, if he explained to U of C how rogue projects are abusing BOINC, U of C might be sympathetic to the kind of changes I propose.

What abuse? There is no abuse as credits are meaningless.

You may think what I propose is objectionable and I admit that I don't like such tactics either but I find what Milkyway and other projects are doing is even more objectionable.

Who cares if they give out hundreds of times of credits than another project to attract computers to do their research - other than you and other members of, what do they now call it in other fora, the credit police (or worse)?

I have no objection to the way these moronic credit schemes are implemented.

Of course you do as that is all you complain about.

I object to the way Milkyway and others buy crunchers with credits.

Let them as if this helps get their research done more quickly, then other projects should be doing the same. More power to Milkyway for caring about their research and manipulating the credit scheme to achieve their goals.

If Milkyway's research were to be destroyed that would be their own fault.

You're a pretty vindictive person aren't you? But then, so are most of the Credit Police.

They would have the option of using old BOINC server software, adopting a different DC platform or creating their own DC platform or just throwing in the towel. And since the mechanisms I've proposed aren't in place yet, I'm sure they would be allowed to remain in the BOINC community if they decided to play nice. But if they refuse to play nice then out they should go and the loss of research will be their fault.

Not the BOINC Community but yourself and all the other totalitarians who spout the same tripe.

Sorry to hear you think I'm a fascist. I'll make you deal... I'll try to be less fascist if Milkyway tries to be less of a douche bag.

Such an eloquent writing style.

As with others of your ilk, there is no communicating with people, like yourself, who shun logic in favour of fanaticism.

-ChinookFöhn

4) Message boards : Number crunching : Too low credits granted in LHC (Message 23323)
Posted 3 Oct 2011 by ChinookFoehn
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Booted from the BOINC community. ... There IS a central authority named Dave Anderson and he can do whatever he wants too, within the limits of the law, of course. Dave is under no obligation to let anyone use BOINC...


I doubt he can do anything he wants as, no doubt, the University of California owns all rights to BOINC.

As for what you propose... How objectionable. Destroy valuable scientific research because you take objection to the way these moronic credit schemes are implemented?

Are you really proposing such scientific fascism in the name of preserving these idiotic credits?

-ChinookFöhn

5) Message boards : Number crunching : Too low credits granted in LHC (Message 23286)
Posted 29 Sep 2011 by ChinookFoehn
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And I remember when I started Assembler programming, on a PDPD-12, and was assigned a whopping 4,096 bytes of memory.

No way I could build bulging muscles moving that much memory around.

-ChinookFöhn
6) Message boards : Cafe LHC : LHC History (Message 23274)
Posted 27 Sep 2011 by ChinookFoehn
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I'd have to take exception to that.

There were 90,654 people who have tried it.

At present there are only 2,703 people actively participating - as per BOINCstats rules. Last 7-days? 14-days? 30-days? I can't remember the cut-off.

-ChinookFöhn
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Too low credits granted in LHC (Message 23267)
Posted 26 Sep 2011 by ChinookFoehn
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University Flashback!
Now I remember why I loathed Assembler Programming.

-ChinookFöhn
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Too low credits granted in LHC (Message 23242)
Posted 24 Sep 2011 by ChinookFoehn
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If I may comment.

Way back when BOINC started, I argued with those against the implementation of the credit awarding scheme - basically as it is ridiculous to compare across projects and will lead to considerable animosity. I should have argued for extreme animosity.

I thought, if anything was to be chosen then it should be for work units correctly completed with no cross-project comparisons.

As what is, becomes case, making all projects equal, will only result in driving more people away. As is, there are only a few more than 200,000 people who let their computers run for science out of more than 2,000,000 who have experimented with it.

I think the argument, now, should be made for the good of the planet. Award more credits to those computers who complete a work unit quickly. Have a median time and award fewer credits to computers who take longer than the median time. This would encourage users to upgrade their computers to newer, more energy efficient, models, thereby aiding the planet by reducing the rate of global warming. (grinning)

-ChinookFöhn
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Federal suit filed to stop... (Message 19326)
Posted 10 Apr 2008 by ChinookFoehn
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I seldom get on my soapbox, and I'll try not to expound here, but if people would simply read and UNDERSTAND what they read, then maybe lawsuits like this would be fewer and farther between. Hopefully, this lawsuit will get thrown out of court.


Irrelevant as a U.S. court has no jurisdiction. Let them waste their money.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : the good old days of LHC Work. Look here for screenshots. (Message 5500)
Posted 13 Dec 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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11) Message boards : Cafe LHC : Pfad Geschloen (Message 5499)
Posted 13 Dec 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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12) Message boards : Number crunching : the good old days of LHC Work. Look here for screenshots. (Message 5494)
Posted 12 Dec 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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13) Message boards : Cafe LHC : Pfad Geschloen (Message 5493)
Posted 12 Dec 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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14) Message boards : Cafe LHC : Pfad Geschloen (Message 5490)
Posted 12 Dec 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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15) Message boards : Number crunching : the good old days of LHC Work. Look here for screenshots. (Message 5489)
Posted 12 Dec 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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16) Message boards : Number crunching : the good old days of LHC Work. Look here for screenshots. (Message 5487)
Posted 12 Dec 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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17) Message boards : Number crunching : Server problems (Message 5405)
Posted 2 Dec 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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18) Message boards : Number crunching : Official Word on no more Work Units...!!!! (Message 5043)
Posted 9 Nov 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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19) Message boards : Cafe LHC : So, how's the weather? (Message 4976)
Posted 7 Nov 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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20) Message boards : Cafe LHC : So, how's the weather? (Message 4973)
Posted 7 Nov 2004 by ChinookFoehn
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