1) Questions and Answers : Windows : VM Hypervisor failed (Message 28303)
Posted 1 Jan 2017 by William C Wilson
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Just an update. I am running only 2 cores with LHCb Simulation and 5 cores with SETI@Home plus GPU SETI when available (not in use). Only had a couple of task fail but most are completing now.

Only thing I do is before shut machine down, suspend all BIONC projects. When reboot, start VM and then start LHC and SETI tasks. Not sure why but seems to work OK now.

Question, do some of the LHCb Simulation task blow up after some time running, normally more than 10% done???????

Thank you.
2) Message boards : LHCb Application : Low CPU usage (Message 28277)
Posted 28 Dec 2016 by William C Wilson
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I am running LHCb simulations, only last few days. Getting failures after about 4 to 5 min, all related to VM Box. Was not installed properly.  Installed Oracle VM Virtual Box 5.1.12 and it´s extension. By trial and error, now bring computer up, start VM manually, and start "execution". After that I manually start Boinc.

First test I ran only 1 core (i4790), Windows 10 Pro (Insider Preview Build 14986)and went to completion. Next, ran 6 cores of simulation, and strange. CPU usage always relatively low (less than 78%. Memory pushing 92% of 24 gb.

When run 7 Seti or Six track applications, always pushes CPU to 98% at 4.3 ghz.

Disk usage was very high for LCHb, caused by VM process but never approached system max of 480 mega BYTES/second but extremely high rate, around 300 Mb/sec. After 10 minutes, all 6 instances failed with computational errors at once.

Now running 1 instance of LHCb Simulation with 6 instances of SETI@home, CPU reaches total of 90% at only 3.93 Ghz. Disk usage around 3 to 8% capacity. Pause LHCb, add the 7th SETI and CPU goes to 98%, my throttle limit set for BOINC.

I will try 4 instances of LHCb next with 3 SETI instances. I just do not want it to seem that something is wrong with the LCHb application or data being crunched. But seems there is some limits caused by VM. Just strange why it does not “grab” all the CPU cycles it can.

Any comments or suggestions will be appreciated. Do not want to screw up the processing, but want to take advantage of maximum of my machine when on. Thanks. Bill in Brazil
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Only 1 of 40 simulation jobs finished and gave results 1 (Message 28252)
Posted 26 Dec 2016 by William C Wilson
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Thank you for your QUICK response. Figuring that not VM Ware and re-installed it again. Last time around 11 minutes was bombing out.  Somewhere saw run only one core at a time, so trying that now. If bombs again, will re-install from your recomendation and try again.

Really really appreciate your hint. Will repost here of what will happens. Hope will finish normally now. Thank you very much.
4) Questions and Answers : Windows : VM Hypervisor failed (Message 28250)
Posted 26 Dec 2016 by William C Wilson
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About half way through the task, SixTrack wu's fail because "VM hypervisior failed to enter an online state in a timely manner". This happened with Windows 7 and now with Windows 10. What should I do?



Today I download complete LHC and it started downloading LHCbSimulation. I expect that I do not have VM installed, joined the group. So many products to download, I have no idea what to download to be able to run these additional programs.

I am running Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview Build 14986 on a 64 bit machine, 4 ghz, 8 cores, and tons of memory and disk. Expect really no VM installed as Reading questions, seems most probable. Help Please.
Thank you
Bill in Brazil
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Only 1 of 40 simulation jobs finished and gave results 1 (Message 28249)
Posted 26 Dec 2016 by William C Wilson
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Need advise -
As far as I know do not have VM Ware running on my machine. Made account but I am at a lost of what to download and install.

Somebody, from VM Ware products for download, please indicate what to download and install. Wanted to run those extra programs, slow downloading to Brazil but do not want to waste my computer time to idle or projects not importante to me.

Thank you

Bill in Brazil
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Host messing up tons of results (Message 27412)
Posted 27 Apr 2015 by William C Wilson
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Thanks for a hint. Wiill be trying this in a few days as now overloaded with work. Strange, CPU Bios setting are the same. but will try. Machine now is all 64 bit including apps. Will try compat settings. Hope it Works and will get back to you with results.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Host messing up tons of results (Message 27355)
Posted 10 Apr 2015 by William C Wilson
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I upgraded mother board, raid drives, and CPU still with windows 8.1 Pro (64 bits) and had only one problem of system shutdown when CPU overheated. Intel´s furnished cooler could not handle the 186 watts. Went to water, no more problems. Last weekend went to Windows 10 Enterprise (64 bit)build 9926 but upgrading to 1041 or 1046 this weekend. Have set no more tasks to down load.

Seems that every other task is giving me the invalid or inconclusive tasks, even with CPU not over clocked.

Watch message board, but see nothing on Windows 10 issues. My other projects are not generating any errors at all.

HELP please.

Bill in Brazil
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Host messing up tons of results (Message 27280)
Posted 4 Apr 2015 by William C Wilson
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Eric,
The Project is importante. I have a new system, last 3 weeks, and first time ever had invalid results. If it is your fault, OK. If here, OK. It happens but we are in the same boat, with same goals.


I feel sometimes you take the feelings, if a users gives effort (time of his machine) and results are lost, it is a big problem. I dont think that way, and hope most users do not even care, unless out of hand. Most of my projects about 2 weeks ago, was due to my new rebuilt computer locking up or crashing. Turned out that heat sink Intel furnished with the i7 4790k CPU that is suppose to be 4.0 ghz, would not run at 3 ghz without overheating.

So put a water cooler on it, and the 182 watts it generates when run it full out of 4.72 ghz is kept to 71 C now. Not your fault that so many of my work units bombed out with emergency shut downs. Now it is stable

Next you and I are going to talk about cloud storage. I have 4 TB waiting to be used, and with a ASPERA network connection, from next door, or one third the way around the world, you transfer at top speed (does not use IP). 500 mb from Japan to here, transfer in 62 seconds over a NORMAL 50 mb network.

We need to talk.

Bill in Brazil
9) Message boards : News : Status, 19th May, 2014 (Message 26509)
Posted 21 May 2014 by William C Wilson
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Eric, you got a plate full of work now and later. Just becareful you do not burn yourself out, and then we all will suffer!!!! You are doing a great job for the community and for Science. Bill in Brazil.
10) Message boards : News : More work (Message 25448)
Posted 16 Feb 2013 by William C Wilson
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Boinc works well for me. When CERN queues are empty, I run my other favorite projects, some now passing 12 years or more - darn, seems impossible time flies that fast. And I divide that extra processors by 40%, 20% 10 and 30% to pass the work around. But when CERN is up, it gets minimum of 80% of my credits, and I know they are work units, and not just keep me busy units. So when available, so am I. However Test4Theory down loaded what was needed, tried to run but seems to blow up after a few seconds. Just not enough time free to see what is wrong - with my end of course.

But next fall in Europe, I am thinking about a trip up North and across the ponds just to see this wordly wonder, and meet the virtual friends there of course!
Bill in Sao Paulo (BR)
11) Message boards : News : Forum restrictions (Message 25447)
Posted 15 Feb 2013 by William C Wilson
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Agree, about time get rid of those leaches (blood suckers down here in Brazil).
12) Message boards : Cafe LHC : ~~~Last Person To Post Wins~~~ (Message 25210)
Posted 28 Jan 2013 by William C Wilson
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Why do I need to win. No more goodies to eat. Then why am I going to take a flight to CERN, at least 11 hours only to Paris from Sao Paulo, and then maybe another up to 2 hour flight, to find no cake, no cookies, no drinks, probably not even bottled water, and probably not even crumbs, if I know these guys there?

But to visit, well that would be worth all the torture in the world just to see the wonderful people working (not eating my prize) and the most advance machine man has made to date. Well worth a prize that is no longer around. Bill in Brazil.
13) Message boards : News : First tests 2013 (Message 25110)
Posted 14 Jan 2013 by William C Wilson
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The second download of another 14 or so today, about 30 min after the first, are running normal. Did not boot, no changes in machine at all. WEIRD.
14) Message boards : News : First tests 2013 (Message 25108)
Posted 14 Jan 2013 by William C Wilson
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I got 12 task, each ran 4 to 10 seconds and showed 100% completed. Something wrong with them, or just a test? Thank you.
15) Message boards : News : A Happy New Year (Message 25064)
Posted 9 Jan 2013 by William C Wilson
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Happy New year, and may 2013 deliver many great surprises for you and the world of science via CERN. I know it will. And if things did not break, what a boring world this would be!
16) Message boards : News : Status and Plans, Saturday 29th September, 2012 (Message 24880)
Posted 1 Oct 2012 by William C Wilson
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Tom, excellent point. I have been running SETI almost entirely with GPU (NVIDIA) and waiting with my arms crossed, tapping my feet, when LHC will start doing same. To use GPU, I would prefer task switching and settings to be available.
17) Message boards : News : Status, 26th August, 2012 (Message 24758)
Posted 31 Aug 2012 by William C Wilson
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I had 4 jobs show up, 3 of 147 hours and 1 of 250 hrs, but hacking away at maximum and real time should be about 40% of estimated. So glad that I have had at least a week plus now of jobs for CERN. ABOUT Time you guys loaded us up.

SETI and rest are taking a back seat, which is fine with me. Here in Brazil you guys are getting a lot of attention on the news (surpise to me really) and seems discovery channel of latin america now passing a lot about what you are doing, which is great!

Eric, and the others, keep feeding us numbers to crunch. My computer has a smile on its face, my wife for sure not, when the eletric bill comes as I am running 15% over clock (3.6 ghz now) that you finally are feeding us numbers.

You have no idea how good that is. Keep it coming, and hope you get some good results to look at. Your project has to do it, and I am an American 28 years in Brazil. So Brazilian by heart. Wish I could treat all you in IT to a real BBQ, Brazilian style. Starts at 1 or 2 pm Saturday, and goes until some time after sun rises up on Sunday. Social event, more than eating.


Bill in Brazil
18) Message boards : News : Status/Plans, 7th August 2012 (Message 24677)
Posted 21 Aug 2012 by William C Wilson
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Sounds like what I had to do when rebooted the DEC PDP-10 (DEC 10, models KA and KI). If was not for use, switch makers would have been out of business.
19) Message boards : News : Status/Plans, 7th August 2012 (Message 24676)
Posted 21 Aug 2012 by William C Wilson
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Go for 50 years of Fortran. Would love to have memories of that, well few more years to get 50 - LOL.

Yes, I had sequence holes punched, but problem, was when made them there fixes, you did not ever know if fixed or not, so skipped it or punched in the same number as continued. Even at NCAR, they used to look badly at you, if you decided to throw away a few drawers of cards. And those punches, like the O 29 as was better. And the card duplicators, had to hard wire in the last columns when ready to sequence them. Gee have come a long way, and I even used the Radio Shack TRS-80, with magnetic tape when came to Brazil. Bought one of the first ones, wow, 32 kb of memory.

Came thru customs here in Brazil, when moved here in 76, and they did not even know what it was so let me thru. Said it was a new type of calculator, which it really was basically.

Then we had at NCAR, the DD80 which we could make movies, frame by frame. To do clouds, we told the operator to defocus it slightly.

Want to be on TOP of your list for your book, go for it. New generation of programers would think it was from the stone age. LOL
20) Message boards : News : Status/Plans, 7th August 2012 (Message 24646)
Posted 19 Aug 2012 by William C Wilson
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ahh, I just had to answer this one! Fortran in the 90s, my grandson, I was programing Fortran in the 1969 and 1970 at NCAR where had a super large computer, CDC 7600 and then Star, for those days, 10s of millions of dollars - and my desktop now runs circles around it. Largest program I had was a space simulation for heat control, took over 7,000 cards, and I punched ever single one of them. And used 3 and half drawers to give it to the operator to read it in, and pray he would not drop it or get just one card out of sequence. Ahh, just to compile was fun in those days.

But I know what you experienced, difference results for same program, same data, different versions of compilers in those days. Well sounds like you got the bull by the horns.

And I loved those series of language. I started out with Fortran, then we built a PDP-11 ground station for digital data, paper tape etc., and started to program thousands of lines in code in machine language. Of course I had a great library of functions and routines built up by the time I went to DEC years later, 1973.

I am glad that you all are doing so much there in science, and computing science. You are the silent goal keepers that make this huge project work.

Keep up the good work, and the good humor.


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