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Message 18545 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 4:40:02 UTC

It sure is starange the way wu amounts are being sent out still.

It gives my "old" P4 2.5 around 5 or 6 at a time but it will only send 1 or 2 out to the dual core P4 3.2
Many times just one.......which of course makes no sense.

So I have to always be checking so I can start up an Einstein to run if I only have one LHC and then if I get no LHC's then I have to "resume" running 2 Einsteins and wait and see if I will get one or two LHC's again.

And this is when there is still work .........


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Message 18697 - Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 4:30:14 UTC

Bigger limit now? I have 22 tasks on a dual core machine.
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Message 18700 - Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 9:01:53 UTC


HuuuM! ;) i should come back then. LoL'z
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Message 18702 - Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 0:32:40 UTC - in response to Message 18697.  
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Bigger limit now? I have 22 tasks on a dual core machine.


Not sure if you're asking if there is a bigger limit, or if you are asking FOR a bigger limit...

If you were asking if there has been an increase: No, the limit is still 10.

If you are asking for an increase: From what I can see, the ready to send queue drains very quickly. I would not be in favor of an increase in the quota because it will mean that the queue would be drained even faster, thus leading us back into the whinging about "fair distribution".

What needs to be addressed FIRST is getting a steady stream of work going. If this project is not going to be able to do that, then there is no sense in upping the quota because the work is able to be done fairly quickly by the current participants at the current quota / distribution level.

IMO, YMMV, etc, etc, etc...
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Message 18703 - Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 14:09:29 UTC - in response to Message 18702.  

Bigger limit now? I have 22 tasks on a dual core machine.


Not sure if you're asking if there is a bigger limit, or if you are asking FOR a bigger limit...

If you were asking if there has been an increase: No, the limit is still 10.


Just making an observation. My machine had 22 tasks at one time. So the limit has been increased.
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Message 18704 - Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 14:49:10 UTC - in response to Message 18703.  

Bigger limit now? I have 22 tasks on a dual core machine.


Not sure if you're asking if there is a bigger limit, or if you are asking FOR a bigger limit...

If you were asking if there has been an increase: No, the limit is still 10.


Just making an observation. My machine had 22 tasks at one time. So the limit has been increased.

The quota resets at midnight UTC, and IIRC the last batch were released in the late evening. So you may have had some of 'yesterday' and some of 'today' on the machine at the same time.
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Message 18705 - Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 6:00:25 UTC


;) maybe your machine is very good at flirting with the server ;o LoL'z.
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Message 18706 - Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 8:39:05 UTC - in response to Message 18705.  


;) maybe your machine is very good at flirting with the server ;o LoL'z.
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Well, it *is* very HOT. And all its slots filled. =;^)
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Message 19208 - Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 20:20:09 UTC
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Looking at the amount of WU's available just now.

Server Status
Up, 73139 workunits to crunch
94735 workunits in progress
8 concurrent connections

Would it be possible to increase the daily quota?

Even if only for a couple of days?

Two of my comps have already returned their limits for today. Must be others in the same boat whose comps could be used to return results quicker.

edit :- Still going up as well.
Server Status
Up, 74245 workunits to crunch
94672 workunits in progress
7 concurrent connections - End edit.


The WU avalanche would seem to mean that everyone who wants wu's are getting enough, leaving a lot waiting on a comp being available.
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Message 19212 - Posted: 12 Mar 2008, 23:59:36 UTC
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As we approach midnight and the quota-reset witching hour:

[size=15][As of 12 Mar 2008 23:57:00 UTC] 
Results ready to send 108,773[/size]
- must be close to an all-time record.
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Message 19213 - Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 0:02:51 UTC - in response to Message 19208.  
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Looking at the amount of WU's available just now.

Server Status
Up, 73139 workunits to crunch
94735 workunits in progress
8 concurrent connections

Would it be possible to increase the daily quota?
Even if only for a couple of days?


Here Here!!!

We're really rolling now! Let's ride, rope, and crunch these doggies!!!!

Suggested new quota = 20 WU's per CPU

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Message 19215 - Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 0:29:43 UTC - in response to Message 19213.  

Looking at the amount of WU's available just now.

Server Status
Up, 73139 workunits to crunch
94735 workunits in progress
8 concurrent connections

Would it be possible to increase the daily quota?
Even if only for a couple of days?


Here Here!!!

We're really rolling now! Let's ride, rope, and crunch these doggies!!!!

Suggested new quota = 20 WU's per CPU

-Daxa

I triple that notion of doubling the quota for a few days.

"Rollin Rollin Rollin -- Though the roads are swollen --- Keep dem doggies rollin, Rawhide!"
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Message 19229 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 1:29:33 UTC - in response to Message 19215.  


I triple that notion of doubling the quota for a few days.


...and I, again, vote against it. The supply quickly ran dry today, which isn't surprising considering how I had several 1 Million turn tasks that ended in less than a second, then what I picked up today were the shorter tasks that normally run about 30 minutes that are ending in 6 minutes...

The quota should only be raised if there is a steady stream of work for more than just 2 days in a row. IMO, they need to be showing over 100K results "to crunch" sustained for a full week before even considering raising the quota...
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Message 19232 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 10:03:24 UTC - in response to Message 19229.  

i agree with this.
lets wait until the flow is constant.

but its funny to see that first everyone is complaining they don't get any. And now they complain because they can't get enough
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I triple that notion of doubling the quota for a few days.


...and I, again, vote against it. The supply quickly ran dry today, which isn't surprising considering how I had several 1 Million turn tasks that ended in less than a second, then what I picked up today were the shorter tasks that normally run about 30 minutes that are ending in 6 minutes...

The quota should only be raised if there is a steady stream of work for more than just 2 days in a row. IMO, they need to be showing over 100K results "to crunch" sustained for a full week before even considering raising the quota...


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Message 19233 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 12:16:31 UTC - in response to Message 19232.  

i agree with this.
lets wait until the flow is constant.

but its funny to see that first everyone is complaining they don't get any. And now they complain because they can't get enough
:)


Most folks seem to forget that the reduced quota was intentionally done to stop the constant noise about "fair distribution". If the quota was increased again, all the fast systems will consume work at a faster pace, eventually leading back to people complaining about things not being "fair", that they didn't get any work while others have a lot.
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Message 19240 - Posted: 15 Mar 2008, 21:22:57 UTC - in response to Message 19233.  

Most folks seem to forget that the reduced quota was intentionally done to stop the constant noise about "fair distribution". If the quota was increased again, all the fast systems will consume work at a faster pace, eventually leading back to people complaining about things not being "fair", that they didn't get any work while others have a lot.

Complaints are like energy. Can't be destroyed, only converted to other types :)
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Message 19242 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 6:30:55 UTC - in response to Message 19240.  
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Most folks seem to forget that the reduced quota was intentionally done to stop the constant noise about "fair distribution". If the quota was increased again, all the fast systems will consume work at a faster pace, eventually leading back to people complaining about things not being "fair", that they didn't get any work while others have a lot.
Complaints are like energy. Can't be destroyed, only converted to other types :)


I would like to express my complaint about sarcasm in the LHC@home fora. Stating that "Complaints are like energy. Can't be destroyed, only converted to other types" is insulting, uncalled for, and insensitive to the individual needs of the LHC@home volunteers. It is important for us to have a sense of community. Comments like this simply provoke "flame wars" and cause general strife among people who should be working together toward a common goal.

Sarcasm will get you nowhere, PovAddict. And furthermore.... Ooo, look! There's more work!!... uh, never mind; gotta go.

-Daxa


PS: Thank you for posting the clever comment. It made me laugh and smile on an otherwise dreary day. ;) Did you come up with that up yourself?
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Message 19261 - Posted: 18 Mar 2008, 0:01:32 UTC

Well March has been a pretty good month for getting some units for my processors!

And as always I finish them asap since I suspend my Einsteins until the LHC's are finished and still have no problem doing those when we run out of LHC's

Earlier today the server was doing that strange thing I get sometimes.....

It will give me 2 units for my old P4 2.5 and only 2 for the dual P4 3.2

But after I updated an hour later it gave the dual machine 4 more of the shorter "w2_lhc" units to go with the 2 longer "wm7" units.

Not sure why the machine I have running about 600 miles away is getting 10 at a time since it is just an old AMD 2200 which I have no control of from here.






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