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Message 11836 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 12:05:16 UTC

One early week when we only had the first 4 projects there was a long strech where all but one were down. Imagine the tenseness when that project took a dive. The closest I was to complete collapse! :)

This is why I will be so glad when we have 10 projects in production. THEN it will be real hard to run out of work regardless.

Of course, if we could get Geant4 work with long work units like CPDN, you could run two projects and have little worry about running out of work ...
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Message 11840 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 19:07:49 UTC - in response to Message 11836.  

This is why I will be so glad when we have 10 projects in production.


But there are still 12 Projects! 2 of them without work... I think there should be no problem running out of work... :-)

But i also would like to see new work from LHC for us. Hope it will come soon!
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Message 11841 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 19:16:18 UTC - in response to Message 11835.  

My personal goal is to reach > 0 credits. Wish me luck.

I added a few new projects because of the current crunch over at S@H and would you beleive that currently 3/4 of them are down.


Good luck, and a worthy goal.

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Message 11855 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 7:02:15 UTC

I too have been waiting anxiously for new work and decided to Google the Particle Accelerator Conference 2006 in Edinburgh. I discovered it isn't until June 26-30, 2006. Forthcoming is a nice vague term which when decoded is "a long time." As 6 months is a long time.

Now they didn't say that work was dependent on its presentation at the conference. But if they ever say that work is forthcoming, then I would surmise that it could be considered something like 6 months off.

Best part about BOINC is the ability to spread the crunching around. I also like the statistical competition, but contribute based on the science and my whims. I don't consider SETI to be hard science, but I will always contribute some to their projects for having the fortitude to create BOINC in the face of adversity.

I'm hoping work will come our way, but I'm not holding my breath.

This email may be read as pessimistic, but I consider it more pragmatistic.

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This may have a double signature. I'm just testing. My apologies.
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Message 11856 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 9:54:43 UTC
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It did not have one at all ... do you want the code for mine as comparison?

BOINC Documentation for everyone: [ url=http://boinc-doc.net/boinc-wiki/index.php]BOINC-Wiki[/url]
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remove the blanks in front of the text for URL and IMG tags edit the code for your values ...
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Message 11857 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 9:58:22 UTC - in response to Message 11855.  

Best part about BOINC is the ability to spread the crunching around. I also like the statistical competition, but contribute based on the science and my whims. I don't consider SETI to be hard science, but I will always contribute some to their projects for having the fortitude to create BOINC in the face of adversity.

I'm hoping work will come our way, but I'm not holding my breath.

This email may be read as pessimistic, but I consider it more pragmatistic.

I got it as realistic.

I too wish there was work. BUt, I am fiddling with my other goals so, nothing is lost ... when they come back on line I will have a real quandry! What to do! :)
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Message 11859 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 15:35:29 UTC

I think a little bit more informations from the LHC Team would be nice... Are there members from the LHC Team anywhere?

Greetz Stefan

Waiting for work from LHC...
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Message 11861 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 18:00:02 UTC - in response to Message 11859.  

I think a little bit more informations from the LHC Team would be nice... Are there members from the LHC Team anywhere?



I think they got sucked into a black hole they created with the LHC...
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Message 11862 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 18:17:43 UTC - in response to Message 11861.  


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Message 11864 - Posted: 8 Jan 2006, 9:38:51 UTC
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I've been wondering the same thing, as my client has continually been unable tog et work, and the front page shows no work. The last update we received (on the 19th of December) indicated there would be another study after Christmas. That said there was no indication of *when, after Christmas*, or more to the point how long.

Yeah there are other projects, so my CPU is busy and all, but some approximate idea of when would be nice. I could just suspend the LHC project on my comp then till that date arives, and it wouldn't continue going out on the net till then.

> Best part about BOINC is the ability to spread the crunching around. I also
> like the statistical competition, but contribute based on the science and my
> whims. I don't consider SETI to be hard science, but I will always contribute
> some to their projects for having the fortitude to create BOINC in the face of
> adversity.

Well, IMO searching for ET isn't a non-worthwhile goal, though that said after the planet quest project comes out, I might disconnect from SETI. Main reason is that planet quest is supposed to couple a search for ET (what SETI already does) in addition to it's search for extra-solar planets (something SETI doesn't yet do). With a certain redundancy of effort combined with a further dimention (planet search), planet quest seems the more comprehensive study.

That said, if SETI's project levels fell too low (not something I'm concerned about, as they have a significant user base), well we sort of need Berkeley for the BOINC project to remain alive. In that case, I'd probably re-consider to keep BOINC around.

Edit: Oh wow, after posting I've just noticed that our RAC has all been shot to hell. Not that it entirely matters (when a project is offline), as we already got the credit we had :D
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Message 11867 - Posted: 8 Jan 2006, 15:47:07 UTC

In fairness I took the notice before Christmas to mean that they will be working after Christmas to generate the new run of work units, etc. That could well take some time - They may well have still to do some analysis of the pre-Christmas runs so that they know what questions they want to ask next.

I'm impatient too - being stuck just over 1000 cobblestones short of where I wanted to be on this project; but I don't think the LHC guys have misled us.

I too would appreciate another brief news item with a realistic estimante of when the work is likely to come.

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Message 11882 - Posted: 10 Jan 2006, 14:24:43 UTC - in response to Message 11861.  

I think a little bit more informations from the LHC Team would be nice... Are there members from the LHC Team anywhere?



I think they got sucked into a black hole they created with the LHC...



I did not but i did have dig myself out of a lot of snow back in Denmark. Christmas was boring and raining but then we got more than 30 cms in half a day. I really enjoyed it though, my first christmas not studying for exams in a really long time. :-)

Now i am back at CERN and we are pushing the scientists for news. We will let you know as soon as possible.



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Message 11883 - Posted: 10 Jan 2006, 14:58:39 UTC

don't push them too hard, they might fall into the lake and catch a cold ;-)

Whereabouts in Denmark?
Been there only once, for about a month, in the Arhus area.
I still enjoy the memories of waking up, going outside with a cup of coffee and seeing the sun rise over the golden grainfields near Lystrup. Just plain beautiful.
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Message 11884 - Posted: 10 Jan 2006, 21:46:55 UTC

Yeah we want new work!I'm tired of crunching proteins and trying to find little green men... :)
Just kidding, most (not all of them though) of the projects do real important things, but I miss LHC and those beautiful electrons coliding in my screensaver... :(
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Message 11885 - Posted: 11 Jan 2006, 8:55:10 UTC

11/01/2006 7:50:24 PM|LHC@home|Sending scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi
11/01/2006 7:50:24 PM|LHC@home|Reason: To fetch work
11/01/2006 7:50:24 PM|LHC@home|Requesting 518400 seconds of new work
11/01/2006 7:50:29 PM|LHC@home|Scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi succeeded
11/01/2006 7:50:29 PM|LHC@home|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
11/01/2006 7:50:29 PM|LHC@home|Project is down

A good sign? My heartbeat picked up a little on seeing the "Project is down" message. :)

Live long and crunch.
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Message 11886 - Posted: 11 Jan 2006, 15:20:07 UTC - in response to Message 11882.  
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I think they got sucked into a black hole they created with the LHC...

I did not but i did have dig myself out of a lot of snow back in Denmark. Christmas was boring and raining but then we got more than 30 cms in half a day.

CERN physicist discovers *white* hole.

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Message 11894 - Posted: 12 Jan 2006, 13:45:05 UTC - in response to Message 11885.  

11/01/2006 7:50:24 PM|LHC@home|Sending scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi
11/01/2006 7:50:24 PM|LHC@home|Reason: To fetch work
11/01/2006 7:50:24 PM|LHC@home|Requesting 518400 seconds of new work
11/01/2006 7:50:29 PM|LHC@home|Scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi succeeded
11/01/2006 7:50:29 PM|LHC@home|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
11/01/2006 7:50:29 PM|LHC@home|Project is down

A good sign? My heartbeat picked up a little on seeing the "Project is down" message. :)



the initial change from just "No work from project" was:

11.01.2006 11:13:44|LHC@home|Scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi failed with a return value of 500
11.01.2006 11:13:44|LHC@home|No schedulers responded
11.01.2006 11:14:44|LHC@home|Fetching master file
11.01.2006 11:17:59|LHC@home|Master file fetch failed
11.01.2006 11:19:00|LHC@home|Sending scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi
11.01.2006 11:19:00|LHC@home|Reason: To fetch work
11.01.2006 11:19:00|LHC@home|Requesting 8640 seconds of new work
11.01.2006 11:22:15|LHC@home|Scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi failed with a return value of 500
11.01.2006 11:22:15|LHC@home|No schedulers responded


so may be the <mainenance> is what it is - maintenance. that would mean there are new packets but probs with the deployment script...

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Message 11898 - Posted: 13 Jan 2006, 6:24:33 UTC

Hey Chrulle, I want on with the Alpha test project! Looking on BoincStats I see like 60 users. What's it take to become one and why's account creation disabled? I wanna get on! Can you get me on? Please? I like alpha projects. They're fun. Especially when they have tons of work to do. You can just copy this account over or something if you need to. I don't mind.
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Message 11900 - Posted: 13 Jan 2006, 8:13:21 UTC - in response to Message 11898.  

Hey Chrulle, I want on with the Alpha test project! Looking on BoincStats I see like 60 users. What's it take to become one and why's account creation disabled? I wanna get on! Can you get me on? Please? I like alpha projects. They're fun. Especially when they have tons of work to do. You can just copy this account over or something if you need to. I don't mind.


There are no plans to open Alpha testing to new users. The work is an illusion - it's just a large number of copies of a handful of results.




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Message 11912 - Posted: 13 Jan 2006, 23:13:25 UTC

Which New Year and which Christmas, at least update the news.
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